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Author Topic:   How to let people show their ... stupidity?
Panda
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Message 18 of 54 (597751)
12-23-2010 8:46 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Taz
12-23-2010 3:59 PM


Re: topic
Taz writes:
It's not about quote mining people in order to make them look stupid.
I do not see the quote-mine.
He spent ages identifying that the island was narrow and then said "My fear is that the whole island ... will tip over and capsize".
He then said "And also things like the environment..."
Clearly he was talking about two different things: Capsizing and then environmental damage.
This also undermines his later defence: "I was using a metaphor to say it ... could be a tipping point which would adversely affect the island’s fragile ecosystem".
Just listen to his discussion of the island's dimensions...
You can clearly hear that something is not right with him.
Edited by Panda, : formatting
Edited by Panda, : extended 1st quote

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Panda
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Message 20 of 54 (597755)
12-23-2010 9:08 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by ringo
12-23-2010 8:55 PM


Re: topic
Ringo writes:
Just slap some outriggers on it.
Aaah...but how long should they be?
Guam is:
"at its widest level is 12 miles from shore to shore"
and
"at its smallest level - smallest location - it's 7 miles between one shore and the other."
and
"about 24 miles long"
TBH: I think it will be ok.
The island shouldn't capsize.
To quote the Admiral:
*stunned pause*
"We don't anticipate that."
Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

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Panda
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Message 24 of 54 (597768)
12-23-2010 9:55 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Taz
12-23-2010 9:17 PM


Re: topic
Taz writes:
Panda writes:
He spent ages identifying that the island was narrow and then said "it will tip over and capsize".
Yup, which was his entire point. The island is narrow and quite small relative to how many people they wanted to put on the island.
Your response is only relevant if you pull my sentence out of context.
quote:
He spent ages identifying that the island was narrow and then said "My fear is that the whole island ... will tip over and capsize".
He then said "And also things like the environment..."
Clearly he was talking about two different things: Capsizing and then environmental damage.
Taz writes:
Panda writes:
This also undermines his later defence: "I was using a metaphor to say it ... could be a tipping point which would adversely affect the island’s fragile ecosystem".
How so? His point was that what the navy's proposing might be too many people for that island.
The answer to this question is available in the above full quote.
You will find that what I say makes more sense when individual sentences are not omitted or pulled out of context.
Taz writes:
The tipping over and capsizing was a poor attempt at humorously trying to make the point that the island was too small to place that many people there, from his point of view.
By poor attempt, do you mean that no-one there thought it was a joke - and he didn't deliver it like it was a joke - and no-one laughed.
If it doesn't walk like a duck and it doesn't quack like a duck - I belong to the old school of thought, which gives people the benefit of the doubt so I say that it isn't a duck.
Taz writes:
Panda writes:
Just listen to his discussion of the island's dimensions...
You can clearly hear that something is not right with him.
I belong to the old...[snip]... literally live in cyberspace?
None of that relates to what he says.
Just listen to his discussion of the island's dimensions...
Taz writes:
Have you never seen someone trying to make a bad joke and other people gasp in disbelief because they didn't get the joke?
TBH: I have seen more people say something dumb and then claim it was just a joke.
Taz writes:
Either that or he really is a dumbass, something which you are too ready to accept I guess.
I am just describing what I see.
You can think him intelligent if you want, something which you are too ready to accept I guess.

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Panda
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Message 50 of 54 (597919)
12-25-2010 3:38 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by Rrhain
12-25-2010 3:16 PM


Rrhain writes:
Something happened.
Senility? Alzheimer’s?
He wouldn't be the first president to be suspected of having a mental problem.
People were/are suspicious over Reagan's behaviour while he was president.

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Panda
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Posts: 2688
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Message 53 of 54 (597956)
12-26-2010 2:38 AM
Reply to: Message 51 by Omnivorous
12-25-2010 4:49 PM


Re: To A Louse
Omnivorous writes:
Ha! whare ye gaun' ye crowlin ferlie?
I've known some very drunk Scots, but they all spelt better than Rabbie...who couldn't even spell 'Robbie' correctly!

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