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RAZD
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Message 1 of 54 (597643)
12-22-2010 9:02 PM


It is somewhat amazing that people are so willing to show their incompetence when it comes to grasping the situation/s.
This thread is not intended to debate the relative merits of the positions described (there's the issue of stupid people not being able to comprehend that they are stupid after all), but rather to showcase examples, hopefully in a humorous vein (and most of these people are vain as well).
Two recent examples come to hand:
Category: Muckraker - TPM – Talking Points Memo
quote:
Tea Party Nation founder Judson Phillips has a dream: "No more Methodist Church."
Phillips explains that he was formerly a member of the church, but he left because it's "the first Church of Karl Marx," and "little more than the "religious" arm of socialism."
"The Methodist church is pro-illegal immigration," he continues. "They have been in the bag for socialist health care, going as far as sending out emails to their membership "debunking" the myths of Obamacare. Say, where are the liberal complaints on the separation of church and state?"
"In short, if you hate America, you have a great future in the Methodist church," he says.
Judson seems to have a little problem with what the freedom of religion is all about and what the constitution says.
Then there's this one:
Category: Muckraker - TPM – Talking Points Memo
quote:
Former Tea Party Express chairman and "accidental" racist Mark Williams is really happy about the recently announced CNN-Tea Party Express Republican debate: "That a respected international, serious news organization like CNN, CNN Political Director Sam Feist and even the potential presidential candidates recognize that the Tea Party is anything but racist and were willing to fight to join simply thrills me."
"I feel completely vindicated, this is an absolute vindication of both the Tea Party and Mark Williams," Mark Williams said.
Mark Williams resigned from his position with the Tea Party Express over the summer, after making a number of racist remarks that caused a stir within his group and the tea party movement.
Among his remarks: He called President Obama "our half white, racist president" and an "Indonesian Muslim turned welfare thug." He also referred to Allah as a "monkey god" and Islam as "a 7th Century death cult coughed up by a psychotic pedophile."
And, in an episode that brought Williams' career with the Tea Party Express to a close, he referred to the NAACP and pondered the "absurdity of a group that calls blacks 'Colored People' hurling charges of racism."
Williams posted about his "vindication" on his website MarkTalk.com, and though he emphasizes that he apologized for his remarks, he also is sure to point out that what he said was true:
What this CNN/TPX agreement proves is that what I said was right but reinforces in my own mind that it was said stupidly. Because I said it stupidly I left myself wide-open to demagogues and race baiters-exploiters who were only just too happy to do their best to destroy the Tea Party with my words as their weapon.

Here's a hint for Mark: if your mouth is open, you are probably going to say it stupidly - it seems you just can't help it.
Now I could probably browse TPM – Talking Points Memo - Breaking News and Analysis for days for more entertainment ...
... but I'll end with this one:
http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/...t-tell-video.php
quote:
Rep. Barney Frank Owns Conservative Reporter Over DADT
A conservative reporter from right-leaning CNS News thought he would play gotcha journalist and ask gay Congressman Barney Frank about gay and straight soldiers showering together. Big mistake. Huge. Barney totally eviscerates the guy and exposes him as a fool.
Thank you Barney for being so Frank.
Enjoy.

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RAZD
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Message 4 of 54 (597650)
12-22-2010 9:37 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Coyote
12-22-2010 9:16 PM


Re: Balance
Hi Coyote
LOL, that's a winner, does he think islands are like icebergs? .. and of course it has as much to do with how politicians get elected (people have to vote for them ... yes?) in general, as it is fairly evidently that it has little to nothing to do with the intelligence of the majority of the candidates.
Remember, this guy voted for Obamacare! He knows what's best for you.
Not sure what that has to do with intelligence though (and I'm glad he did vote for it, so I don't see the problem there) ...
... or is it just another example of a disturbingly typical logical fallacy argument:
Person X is says something that appears stupid
Person X supports Y
Therefore Y must be stupid?
Seems your source is also capable of making questionable comments.
Enjoy.
Edited by RAZD, : ...

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Message 11 of 54 (597702)
12-23-2010 3:24 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Taz
12-23-2010 2:49 PM


topic
Hi Taz, let's lighten up a bit (holiday season after all)
The thread is to highlight stupid things stupid people say, not to debate the finer points of stupidity thus exposed.
There's plenty of canon fodder. Let's have some more examples.
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Message 23 of 54 (597766)
12-23-2010 9:47 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Panda
12-23-2010 8:46 PM


fair and balanced ... or something
Everyone,
I agree that he made a boner statement, and it was clear to me listening to the tape (are we gonna have another tapegate?) that he said it and then seguayed to the population density issue. The only thing I also notice is that the source coyote quoted also said
quote:
UPDATE: For what it's worth, Johnson apparently has Hepititis C, which means "he regularly gets lost in thought in the middle of a discussion. He is easily fatigued and often impatient and irritable." But I'm not sure that accounts for what's going on here.
As someone who has experience "chemo-brain" - the adverse effect on mental activity due to the chemical medications taken (made me more like common folk? ) - I can sympathize with someone saying something that did not come out entirely as conceived, however in that case one should not be driving the bus.
Enjoy.
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Message 33 of 54 (597859)
12-24-2010 10:49 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by anglagard
12-24-2010 7:54 PM


Re: Who's Buried in Grant's Tomb?
His horse?
Oh BTW, did you notice some of the misspellings in the subtitles?
What I loved was their doctoring of the maps, relabeling Australia (where I believe the original tv show production was from, iirc from previous posting) to other various countries (north korea, iran, france, etc) and getting the clueless to stick pins in it.
Sad commentary on general education levels I'd say.

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Message 44 of 54 (597892)
12-25-2010 10:45 AM
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12-23-2010 10:34 PM


Re: Must be the drugs - Can't post to the correct topic

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Message 45 of 54 (597893)
12-25-2010 10:52 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by frako
12-25-2010 6:20 AM


schrubbia
another excellent example of a politician opening his mouth ...
How could you elect this guy twice rofl
I didn't. I voted against him twice, and after the first time I apologized to all the creationists that I had called stupid, because I had obviously overestimated the average intelligence of the American public. Even knowing that half of americans need to be under 100 IQ due to the math involved ...
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