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Author Topic:   Harold Lewis Resigns - Calls Global Warming a Scam
crashfrog
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Message 4 of 22 (586581)
10-14-2010 12:34 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by GDR
10-13-2010 11:10 PM


ClimateGate
It's emerged as a standard technique among denialists to merely utter "ClimateGate!" as a name to conjure with, as though the invocation settles the argument with no need of any explanation of what the issue actually was.
For the most part, of course, most of the denialists can't tell you what the issue was, because when you actually go to the emails they "prove" nothing at all. The supposedly "fudged models" were used to test algorithms, not process data.
That, of course, is the technique Harold Lewis is using above. He's dead certain, somehow, that "ClimateGate" proves something but I doubt he could even begin to explain what or how. And I doubt that any of our resident denialists could, either.

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crashfrog
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Message 18 of 22 (586788)
10-14-2010 7:25 PM
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10-14-2010 7:11 PM


A highly qualified and respected scientist makes the point that there is an agenda in play, and a lack of scientific objectivity in the institution that is charged with researching the issue.
Well, sure. That's the accusation he's making.
What's the proof he presents? None at all. he just says "ClimateGate" like it settles the issue.
There doesn't seem to be any thought given that just maybe the charges he has made should at least be investigated.
But they were investigated. He even admits they were investigated. The individuals involved in "ClimateGate" were investigated eight times, with not a single investigation lending any credence whatsoever to the accusations.
The individual who violated the privacy of scientists, as well as the law, by hacking into a private email server and anonymously releasing the contents has never been identified or investigated.

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