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jar
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Message 8 of 25 (114202)
06-10-2004 4:32 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by John Paul
06-10-2004 3:50 PM


Re: Eye Design
Clams.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 11 of 25 (114214)
06-10-2004 5:28 PM
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06-10-2004 5:09 PM


Re: Eye Design
Very good. Scallops as well.
And that is some of the best evidence against ID.
If we look out and examine something like seeing, what we find is not a design, but rather a whole basketfull of solutions to the problem of seeing. We find simple surface cells that are light sensitive, pin hole camera type systems as in the Nautilus, compound eyes, compound lens, binolcular eyes, two part dual focal length eyes, eyes that see at different wave lengths, eyes that operate seperately and independantly, eyes that work in combination with other organs to see from IR to UV.
Variety like that, even when limited to providing the same functions, is not characteristic of design, but rather making do or good enough. What we see are not designs but jury rigs, things that are good enough to get the job done but certainly nothing to be proud of.
When we look at nature, what we see is not the race car sitting in the paddock, but rather the patched up, beat up thing, held together with thousand mile an hour tape and bondo. It is not design, it is cobbled, patched, jury rigged and just good enough to (hopefully and wishfully) get by.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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