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Author Topic:   Herbal supplements in US commonly have traces of contaminants
Hyroglyphx
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Message 10 of 102 (579015)
09-03-2010 10:54 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Dogmafood
09-02-2010 9:15 AM


Wipe your own ass
Anything sold to the public should be subject to over site and regulation. However, the bureaucracy and interest driven process of the FDA is seriously flawed. Do you think that the lobbyists from Phizer and Glaxo/Smith are more interested in public health or the $25 billion in annual supplement sales?
That's my take on it too. I am generally for a laissez-faire market, with minimal regulation. I agree that independent research does need to be conducted to ensure the safety of a product. The problem is that, as you've eloquently stated, "bureaucracy and interest driven process of the FDA is seriously flawed."
This may be a cynical take on it but I think the real problem stems from our tendency to look to the govt to protect us from our own ignorance. They should, by all means, provide the information and then let people make their own decisions. Nannies are for children.
Amen. A lot of people have this false illusion and false sense of self-entitlement that the gov't should hold their hands through life, from cradle to grave. Anything less than self-reliance fosters dependency.

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 15 of 102 (579121)
09-03-2010 5:31 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Granny Magda
09-03-2010 11:41 AM


Re: Wipe your own ass
That's all very well, but in truth you cannot free yourself from this particular dependency. Nor can you wipe your own ass when you've been lethally poisoned by dodgy herbs, something that has actually happened in some cases.
I didn't say any of that in defense of people who use herbs as a remedy. I'm saying that pharmaceuticals and the FDA should not be anyone's assurance. I could point to 101 cases of people dying or being irreparably harmed by pharmaceuticals. That's WITH the FDA's approval...
How are you going to do that on your own? Perhaps there are existing studies on silverweed that you can look at - but perhaps there are not. If not, you're screwed. You can't conduct a clinical trial all on your own. You can't collect epidemiological data on your own. You are left with no meaningful way of assessing the effectiveness or harm of the product.
I'm not saying the FDA is functionless, I'm saying that take everything they say with a grain of salt. These are the same kind of people that disseminated the same propaganda that marijuana caused "reefer madness," making negro's and chinamen go crazy and have homicidal ideations.

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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