Hi EMA,
EMA writes:
Your expression "But you can" in connection with sinning apart from understanding law, needs to be demonstrated, not simply stated. How does one sin and not have the ability to understand Gods laws
I am sorry for you misunderstanding my statement.
You can be born with a sin nature.
AND
You are born with a sin nature. refered to nothing other than man being born with a sin nature..
EMA writes:
Your expression, "with a sin nature" can only be applied to those that have the ability to comprehend something for it to be wrong in the first place.
Why?
What does knowledge of sin and posessing a sin nature have to do with each other?
Is there a problem with posessing a sin nature without knowing what sin is?
As far as humans were concerned the only sin commited prior to the law being given was that of the first man who was commanded not to eat fruit of a certain tree.
Romans 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, [there is] no transgression.
EMA writes:
Jesus never instructed infants to be born again
It is not necessary until they reach the point the man in the garden did when he ate the forbiden fruit. Having the knowledge of good and evil.
EMA writes:
There is no instruction on the specifics of how we deal with thier alleged sin.
We don't deal with anybody's sins. That is God's job.
EMA writes:
hence Pauls expression, "By one man sin entered the world", should not be understood to mean, that children are born with Adams sin, but that sin entered this realm, when there was none before
God created this universe and everything in it. That makes Him the Owner, Ruler, and Posessor of everything in the universe.
He makes the rules.
God formed a man from the dust of the ground and placed him in a place of pleasure called the garden of Eden. The meaning of Eden is pleasure.
The man was given one law. He was not to eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
When man disobeyed God kicked him out of His garden of pleasure.
Therefore that man or any other mankind has no right to, nor claim to be able to live in God's garden of pleasure.
You nor anyone is entitled to live in God's garden of pleasure.
God did make a way mankind could be given the opportunity to live in that garden of pleasure by offering Himself on the cross of Calvary to reunite mankind to full fellowship with God.
God offers all mankind a free full pardon and restoration and His only requirement is found in John 3:16=18.
Making the statement in verse 18 that mankind is lost, "because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. "
Are you are declaring man must keep the law to receive eternal life?
If that is the case I would like for you to present Bible evidence to support that claim.
I will here present evidence that refutes that claim.
Paul writes:
Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law [is] the knowledge of sin.
EMA writes:
Christs actions reverses the process,
Christs actions did not reverse the fact that by the sin of one man sin entered into the world and separated all mankind from perfect relationship with God.
His actions did reverse the result of that sin. For by that sin mankind was separated from God.
By the actions of Christ mankind can be restored to the position mankind was before that man ate the forbidden fruit.
God Bless,
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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."