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Asgara
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Message 78 of 167 (546294)
02-09-2010 7:46 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by Hyroglyphx
02-09-2010 3:29 PM


Re: Playing the Devil's Advocate
...since thinking and feeling occurs as early as the 12th week of gestation. After the 12th week a fetus simply grows larger. ..
Can I see some references for this?
From
University of Birmingham - Stuart Derbyshire:
"Although the system is clearly immature and much development is still to occur (fig 1), good evidence exists that the biological systems necessary for pain is intact and functional from around 26 weeks' gestation."
All the connections, from the nerve endings, to cabling from them to the brain, to the brain structure necessary to process "feeling" are either not there yet or not connected until well past your "12th week of gestation." Much MUCH more than simply "growing larger" happens between the 12th week and birth.
www.guttmacher.org
The majority of abortions occur when a vacuum apparatus not much bigger than a kidney bean can be used.
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Asgara
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Message 111 of 167 (546672)
02-12-2010 5:58 PM
Reply to: Message 109 by Hyroglyphx
02-12-2010 3:05 PM


Re: How Many Humans?
Part of this that you're not taking into account, is most of these early miscarriages take place before the woman even realizes she is pregnant. And many of them happen to women who may not actually prefer a pregnancy at that time. Women who accept it if it happens but if given the choice of when it happens would prefer to wait.
So no, not all these early miscarriages would result in the woman trying again to conceive and leaving the net ratio exactly the same.

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