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Author Topic:   Faith vs Skepticism - Why faith?
Iblis
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Message 274 of 533 (535340)
11-14-2009 10:05 PM
Reply to: Message 271 by Straggler
11-14-2009 7:04 PM


String Theology
Hades. Valhalla. Olympus. Hell. Islamic notions of paradise. The domain of the Hindu gods. The domain in which the Immaterial toilet goblins exist. The domain in which the fifty two and a half pixies that set the universe in motion dwell. The Immaterial Pink Unicorn domain, the Ethereal Yellow Squirrel domain, The Christian heaven, Mookoo's domain, Wagwah's domain, the domain in which the immaterial green turtle wades through the invisible aether with the universe on its back held in place by the incorporeal god chewed bubble-gum, Santa Claus's magic domain, The Easter Bunny's intangible chocolate domain, your deity's domain, the tooth fairy's domain, the garage dragon's domain.............etc. etc. etc.etc. ad-infinitum.
What if these are all "branes"?
What if there really is a multiverse, containing all imaginable worlds. These "domains", being imaginary, are by definition imaginable aren't they? So what if they really exist?
The fact that some claim we are imagining and creating them while others claim they imagine and create us is relevant here. It has the sort of symmetry we have learned to expect from a TOE. The question of how such alternative realities could affect us is also very revealing. All the information we have indicates such cross-universe effects would be very subtle and difficult to detect. This corresponds to our experience when we try find evidence for higher realities and divine manifestations and such.
Let's consider the possibility that thoughts, like gravity, are composed of joined loops that wander freely from brane to brane. This would explain why we so often forget or lose track of our intentions, direction or hmm, you know, could someone remind me where I was going with this?
Oh! I remember now! What if believing stuff in this world really could make it true in the next one? Then by carefully choosing what to believe about them, we could shape them into the sort of beings who would believe the sort of stuff about us that we would like to trickle back over and eventually become true in our own world.
No wait, that wasn't it at all. Oh well, it will come back to me.

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Iblis
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Message 277 of 533 (535347)
11-14-2009 11:54 PM
Reply to: Message 275 by Buzsaw
11-14-2009 11:17 PM


raiders of the wooden horse
discovery of corroborating sites and debris in the Gulf of Aqaba and the region on both sides of the gulf near Nuweiba Beach which match up so nicely with the Biblical record
Hi Buz, sorry to bug you but I just went through the last 4 pages or so of threads you have been in and I'm still not finding one that seems to be about this archaeology? And the wiki isn't telling me anything that seems to be real useful in this context either. I would use the site search engine but it isn't working for me right now.
So could you link me to something informative about this stuff? I'm interested because you seem to be saying that there's something about these sites that is consistent with miracles or supernatural intervention or something, not just people living there or "sojourning" there or whatever, drowning there, for example.
In short, how does this evidence differ from evidence that a place like Troy really did exist and actually fell at the time appointed by the gods of Olympus & Hades?

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Iblis
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Message 305 of 533 (535449)
11-16-2009 3:09 AM
Reply to: Message 294 by onifre
11-15-2009 7:45 PM


Re: The Logical Basis for Possibilities
Where is the evidence that there IS an outside the universe at all?
What evidence are you using to posit such a non-evidenced domain?
No fair! You firmly agree with the idea of realms outside the observed universe (other branes) in the pseudo-science threads. But in the pseudo-skepticism threads you deny the possibility of any such thing?
This is the work of imagination.
No such domain like "outside the universe" should even be entertained as existing, when the sole reason for proposing such a thing is blind speculation.
This seems to get more to the heart of it. It's no fair positing such a concept without very sound non-philosophical reasons for wanting it to be there. Have I got that right?
Fine. But the cat's out of the bag now, there apparently are such domains. Seeing as how they are there, they are available for anyone to use, not just the people who found them first.

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Iblis
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Posts: 663
Joined: 11-17-2005


Message 313 of 533 (535505)
11-16-2009 12:02 PM
Reply to: Message 312 by Buzsaw
11-16-2009 11:52 AM


Re: Exodus thread
Click here Buz
Message 14
The database glitch has boggled the connection between the first post and the rest of them, but there really only seem to be about 12 posts that I can't get at. All the stuff you want from Lysimachus and your guests is essentially intact.
Edited by Iblis, : AbE

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