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Author Topic:   What makes homo sapiens "human"?
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Message 4 of 125 (119305)
06-27-2004 7:26 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by pink sasquatch
06-27-2004 7:12 PM


Humans are animal. What seperates us from the rest of the animal kingdom is our ascension to the top of the food chain when we created civilizations.

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Message 12 of 125 (119519)
06-28-2004 12:55 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Dr Jack
06-28-2004 6:50 AM


Mr Jack writes:
Really? I haven't seen any. There's some exceedingly poor evidence that you can teach chimpanzees something that vaguely approximates rudimentary language. But as far as I know no evidence that they use any in their natural world.
Based on this logic, I can claim that there is some exceedingly poor evidence that Americans (or English native speakers) cannot be taught Vietnamese and speak it the way that will make us Vietnamese understand. Therefore, I conclude that you don't really speak a language at all.
The point is we haven't broken any code that the whales use or the elephants use. The whales could easily say to each other that humans lack language because there is little evidence that any human being at all could learn whale.

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Message 79 of 125 (120145)
06-29-2004 7:43 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by 1.61803
06-29-2004 6:25 PM


Re: If it looks like a duck.....
the golden ratio writes:
Are humans apes or not?
I've always been under the impression that humans are homonids, not apes.

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coffee_addict
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Message 81 of 125 (120149)
06-29-2004 7:56 PM
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06-29-2004 7:49 PM


Re: If it looks like a duck.....
That's odd. I could have sworn that I learned in bio that one of the criteria for being a homonid is bipedal locomotion. Oh well.

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Message 84 of 125 (120181)
06-29-2004 11:06 PM
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06-29-2004 8:01 PM


Re: If it looks like a duck.....
Chiroptera writes:
I agree, that I think I have heard hominid as referring to bipedal apes. I think I have seen hominoid used to refer to the apes in general.
That's it! A light bulb just lite up above my head. Homonid (or hominid- which ever way you want) refers to bipedal primates. Homonoid (or hominoid - either way) refers to apes and homonids.
Ok, I have that cleared up in my head now.

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Message 86 of 125 (120186)
06-29-2004 11:27 PM
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06-29-2004 11:18 PM


Re: If it looks like a duck.....
I currently use a 56k modem to get online, so it takes forever to fish online for info. All my books are still in my suitcases (I still haven't unpacked). Right now, I am only pulling info out of my long term memory banks.

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