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Message 104 of 196 (296893)
03-20-2006 5:50 PM


I have two questions:
1) How did Noah get to the polar regions to collect penguins, and back down to the southern hemisphere to collect kangaroos in the space of just 7 days?
2) How did the Penguins live on the boat? Did they have some kind of special cooling room?

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Message 106 of 196 (296963)
03-20-2006 10:05 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by DrJones*
03-20-2006 6:07 PM


Thanks DrJones.
The following rebuttal is not aimed at you directly, but rather at those who would argue the points you put forth to be fact.
quote:
Boolean
1) How did Noah get to the polar regions to collect penguins, and back down to the southern hemisphere to collect kangaroos in the space of just 7 days?
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DrJones*
1a. Noah did not take 2 of every animal, he took 2 of every Kind of animal and after the flood microevolution occured and you have the variety you see today. Therefore he didn't take 2 penguins but 2 of the bird "kind" and eventually we got penguins out of them.

We know, according to the bible, that the great flood happened in 2461 BCE. So this leaves around 4467 years to get until the present day (correct my maths if I am wrong) for an eagle, a parakeet, a penguin etc. to evolve from this one 'base' bird, which according to the bible must be a dove (since Noah sends it out at the end of the story). From this I see that the only way for the creationist story to work is to rely on the theory of . .evolution.
But not just normal evolution that takes million upon billions of years, but HYPER evolution, which states that 8,800-10,200 species of bird evolved from just one base bird in the space of just 4461 years. In fact, it relies on a theory of evolution SO advanced, even those who believe in evolution over creation just can’t see how it could happen. Now we know that Noah had a dove, since that is what he sends to find land in the story. So did a penguin evolve from a dove in the space of just a few thousand years?
This leaves me with the following outcomes:
1) God just 'made' these new species after the flood, or gave the temporary ability of hyper evolution, which is not recorded anywhere in the bible, nor is there is any evidence of that happening outside of the bible.
2) That animals do indeed evolve at a rate where one new species of bird appears every 6 months, and it’s a commonly known fact today that I am unaware of.
3) The person who wrote the story had not travelled every square inch of the globe and had not discovered just how many species of animals there really were in his time, along with the habitats they would need to live, their daily needs to stay alive, what they would all need to eat and drink, the complex nature of needing to be a vet if one of the two animals he took on board got sick, and so on. He unknowingly wrote a story that he believed to be accurate, just like how there are stories of people travelling to the edge of the earth, fighting a minotaur, and speaking with dragons. The author based the stories of a limited understanding of the world at the time, which don’t hold up accurately to what we know about the world today.

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