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deerbreh
Member (Idle past 2924 days) Posts: 882 Joined: 06-22-2005
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Fun Flood Facts
Darwin writes: 3.)If insects were persona non-grata, how the heck did they survive forty days and forty nights of floods? What, you haven't heard of the floating vegetative mats?
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deerbreh
Member (Idle past 2924 days) Posts: 882 Joined: 06-22-2005
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Message 145 of 196 (319585)
06-09-2006 3:43 PM
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Reply to: Message 106 by boolean
03-20-2006 10:05 PM
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Why save animals at all?
It would have made a lot more sense to just take on enough animals to keep the Noah clan in meat for a year and then recreate the animals after the flood. You would think God would have thought of this, being God. Also - on the clean/unclean animal thingy. We are many years before Mosaic Law here so Noah wouldn't have even known what a "clean" animal was. Small detail, I know, but still it does make one wonder.
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deerbreh
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Message 150 of 196 (319615)
06-09-2006 5:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 148 by nwr
06-09-2006 4:55 PM
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Re: Why save animals at all?
The people at that time intuitively understood that creation occurred through natural processes, not by "poofing" the animals into existence. Funny, the writer of Genesis had no problem "poofing" animals, plants, man, earth, sun, moon and stars into existence just a few chapters earlier.
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deerbreh
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Message 152 of 196 (319621)
06-09-2006 5:36 PM
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Reply to: Message 146 by Faith
06-09-2006 3:49 PM
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Re: Why save animals at all?
Or possibly not simply intuitively known previously as it's highly likely that God and Adam communicated more than is reported in the Bible. The skills of growing crops are somewhere later said to have been learned from God as I recall, implying that all kinds of necessary knowledge was learned directly from Him. Of course the more parsimonious explanation that doesn't require God to be an agricultural extension agent is that the writer of Genesis knew Mosaic law and simply incorporated it into the story to make it more understandable for Jewish readers.
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deerbreh
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Message 158 of 196 (323216)
06-19-2006 10:51 AM
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Reply to: Message 157 by Jaderis
06-16-2006 11:05 PM
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And on his ark he had a cow?
Oh and one more thing. Most mammals (and especially large herbivores), if taken as babies as many creationists suggest, require milk to survive until weaned. They cannot eat hay or grains or meat unless it is mashed up until very soft (the work keeps piling up for poor Noah) and even then do not provide enough nutrients and fats to bulk them up to their healthy adult sizes (remember these animals needed to be in good health so that they could breed after departing the ark). How would the milk be stored and not spoil? Maybe Noah was a dairy farmer in his pre flood life and just hung on to a couple of prize Holsteins and Guernseys? A couple of hours milking the cows by hand shouldn't have been a problem. After all there were eight people on board, right? Surely someone had time to milk the cows. Actually I saw a rather bad movie once of Noah's flood and they had Noah giving milk to the big cats, which is how they got around the predator/prey thingy. When one goes down the "just so" story road all things are possible.
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deerbreh
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Re: And on his ark he had a cow?
I grew up on a dairy farm and we gave the test milk to the cats all of the time with no apparent ill effects. Of course we never consulted a vet. The vet was for the cows. The cats were on their own, as there were always more where they came from. Sorry but that was the life of a semi-feral barn cat.
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deerbreh
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Re: And on his ark he had a cow?
I wonder if the difference is that you fed them fresh milk wheras the stuff I gave to mine was pasteurized? No I think not. Introduction of a new food will almost always do that with dogs or cats, if not done gradually. Our cats got the waste milk from day one so their systems were accustomed to it. I suspect had we given them a can of commercial cat food they would have gotten just as sick as your cats did on milk.
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deerbreh
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Message 170 of 196 (323818)
06-20-2006 10:21 AM
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Reply to: Message 169 by Jaderis
06-19-2006 10:09 PM
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Re: And on his ark he had a cow?
Eh, I thought I made it blatently clear that my "Noah's Dairy" scenario was very much made with my tongue firmly tucked into my cheek with my comment about "just so" stories. Apparently not. Anyway, no rebuttal argument necessary. My post was entirely a spoof of "Creation Science" "research".
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