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AdminNosy
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Message 3 of 79 (159201)
11-13-2004 8:20 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Adminnemooseus
11-13-2004 8:04 PM


An example
It wasn't all that long ago we offered Mike the Wiz admin status (he was a creationist at the time). I disagreed with him on a lot of thing, a whole lot. However, he did his best to discuss in an honest way.
He refused the dubious offer.
Now he's corrupted and couldn't be considered a "real" creationist any more. As AM notes, once someone can conduct themselves in a manner that would make them moderator material they start to slide. I don't know how we can catch any more than the couple we have.
As I noted else where Dawg is a moderator. However, he is short of time but manages a bit of non moderator participation but no moderating. He too seems to have waffled a little on his level of literalism. I think he is, perhaps, not a YEC anymore.

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AdminNosy
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Message 8 of 79 (159328)
11-14-2004 10:52 AM
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11-14-2004 6:10 AM


Brad?
What about Brad McFall? Don't laugh!
Well, I think there might be some problems when he explained to a poster how to improve their posts. No one would understand what he was getting at.
Worse, what if they did? Then we could all end up writing like that.

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AdminNosy
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Message 10 of 79 (159360)
11-14-2004 1:41 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Adminnemooseus
11-14-2004 11:29 AM


Managing the balance
Adding my two cents (Canadian) worth:
There is a constant balancing act in moderating. I like to think that I, more or less consistently, tilt against the science side a bit. I expect more of them is why.
I'm always interested in feedback, of course. It would need to be pretty specific and suggest an alternative action.
I've certainly had recent feedback from Ken but that hasn't been very helpful.

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Message 22 of 79 (159527)
11-15-2004 1:34 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by RisenLord
11-15-2004 12:51 AM


Using the admin card
You should call it the "here's why creationism is wrong, and we'll restrict your participation level if you disagree too much" forum.
We all make mistakes of course.
However, I think it will be necessary for you to show where someone has been chastised (and more, moved to boot camp or suspended) for disagreeing too much instead of violating forum guidelines such as supporting assertions with evidence, making the case yourself and respecting others.
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AdminNosy
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Message 23 of 79 (159532)
11-15-2004 1:44 AM
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11-15-2004 12:51 AM


Admin duties
Also, not every subject on here IS strictly scientific.......many are philosophical, and those forums SHOULD HAVE CREATIONIST ADMINS.
I believe we should have more creationist admins (Dawg, here is somewhere you could jump in). What do you see as being the responsibilities of an admin?
How, exactly, would a creationist admin do something different? I'm guessing a bit, but I think you'll find in the non-scientific topics there is somewhat less administrative "meddling". However, in all fora the guidelines still hold. How would a creationist admin handle that?
There seems to be much less creationist discussion in the scientific fora. Many of us have no particular argument with religious beliefs. We do have a strong disagreement with those who claim to be creation "scientists" and want to meddle with the eductional system. However, those who think there should be some such meddling seem to avoid the science threads. I suspect this is because when they do dip a toe in they find the water much too hot.
Why shouldn't a creationist admin be involved there too? Perhaps especially there. What would they do differently?
You do know that anyone can "play admin" if they want and point out where the guidelines could be followed better. They just can't suspend anyone or restrict them in any way. You might also note that very few people actually do get restrictions. Which ones do you think were restricted unfairly and why?

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