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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 11 of 105 (261123)
11-18-2005 8:21 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Minnemooseus
05-11-2005 2:08 PM


Re: Theistic Evolutionism???
It will be interesting to see how they try to achieve the above. It would seem to require some variety of theistic evolutionism.
Where does the Bible say the Earth is young ?
Ray

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Message 18 of 105 (261292)
11-19-2005 2:48 PM
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11-19-2005 12:48 AM


Re: Theistic Evolutionism???
the bible claims the earth was created in seven days. well. six days and a nap to finish.
You seem to have misunderstood my question. Whether the Bible says the Earth was created in 6 days or over the course of 6 thousand years is irrelevant.
My question is how long ago does the Bible say this creation took place ?
Show me where the Bible says the Earth is under 10,000 years old ?
Ray

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Message 25 of 105 (261612)
11-20-2005 6:16 PM
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11-19-2005 3:20 PM


Re: Theistic Evolutionism???
i see. well. the old testament gives us specific geneologies. the addition of the lifetimes of these individuals adds to somewhere around six thousand years or so.
I asked where the Bible says the earth is under 10g.
Genealogies are not chronometers - they are lineages. In fact, conspicuously absent from Genesis is any chronometer.
Fact: The Bible says the Earth is old.
There is a vast gap of time between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2.
Genesis 1 has God telling Adam to "REplenish" the Earth.
Ray

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Message 31 of 105 (262052)
11-21-2005 4:01 PM
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11-20-2005 6:28 PM


Re: Theistic Evolutionism???
Ray, I know you've posted before that you accept the earth is old, is this "gap theory" or your own thinking? How old do you think the earth is?
The gap theory is one of two theories ALL scholars subscribe to. My sources are pro-gap theorists. Do you want to know why we are right and the YEC's wrong ?
Answer: Because science has proven the Earth of immense age. Therefore the gap rendering is correct based on the totality of Biblical evidence.
Ray: Genesis 1 has God telling Adam to "REplenish" the Earth.
RAZD: Is there a time-table for this? At what point in time does Adam step on the stage?
Time is conspicuously absent from Genesis. God told Adam to REplenish the Earth instead of plenish; which implies and supports the gap. Genealogically, Adam was created 5100 BC (source: Codex Alexandrinus)
Ray

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Message 33 of 105 (262067)
11-21-2005 4:34 PM
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11-21-2005 4:08 PM


Re: Theistic Evolutionism???
1. genesis 1 doesn't talk about "Adam" the proper name of a man, it says "ha-adam" or THE man.
Negative.
"hadamah" = red ground, that which God formed Adam out of. Notice "adam" name in the word.
"ish" = generic mankind. Deliberately conflating both words to mean generic man while adding a definite article is corruption on it face; your Darwinian ulterior motive is clearly exposed.
Adam is a proper name. "ish" = mankind in general. Blurring these simple facts is very predictable since Darwinists are fraud artists through and through to begin with.
I was clearly incompetent to say you were competent. You are a Darwinist.
Ray
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