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Message 419 of 549 (580886)
09-12-2010 3:27 AM

Reply to: Message 404 by Dawn Bertot
09-10-2010 7:32 AM

Re: For anybody who doesn't see the relevance

Back to square one. This why both should be taught, because they are the only two scientific methods. I could not and will never be wrong on this point

And before then you wrote:

There are only two logical explanations and both can be demonstrated, only one is true, but neither can be proved, hence both shoudl be taught as to why anything is here inthe first place.

But you are wrong. The moment you say it might be a supernatural agent you can't say you're introducing one more possibility. Instead you're introducing a near infinite set of supernatural causes.

How can anyone possibly say that God started life on Earth is more evidence based than aliens started life on Earth? We've a lot of evidence for the possibility of aliens.

There's some evidence (by the way you seem to use the term) for all manner of possible origins, should they all be taught? It is even possible that I created all life and do not even know that I did, where’s my class? Possible is a poor metric.

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Message 420 of 549 (580887)
09-12-2010 3:35 AM

Reply to: Message 404 by Dawn Bertot
09-10-2010 7:32 AM

Re: For anybody who doesn't see the relevance

An argument CANNOT be made for anything to be designed, but where obvious order exists it is more than warrented. I dont say chaos points to design that would be stupid

What thing can you name that there has never been an argument that God created it?

The order argument is silly since Christians can also argue that disorder is proof of Creation. Any perfection in Creation is the Hand of God, any imperfection is the Sin of Man. Once you cannot tell anything from the evidence then the evidence really is of no help.

This is ultimately what people are trying to tell you here. Once anyone, including the IRC, adopts the position that everything found fits the claim, no matter what is found, then what is being done is not science.

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Message 448 of 549 (580961)
09-12-2010 5:04 PM

Reply to: Message 1 by Dr Adequate
04-22-2009 4:10 PM

ICR org reply linky.

I didn’t notice this link in this thread (sorry if I missed it), but here’s a link to the IRC’s response.
Censorship in Texas: Fighting Academic and Religious Discrimination | The Institute for Creation Research

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