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Has EvC changed your beliefs?

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Message 86 of 223 (327820)
06-30-2006 4:02 PM 		Reply to: Message 85 by iano
06-30-2006 3:33 PM

Re: Over the Line
I supported Jazzns post because it speaks from the heart. And from the overflow of the heart a man speaks. Better to get it out where it can be seen than have it kept inside. To the benefit of all who know him not
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Hi Iano. I agree that we are to take insults and not complain, and I for one have a way to go on that virtue, but in a public forum the reason to insist on proper form is for the sake of order and communication, and sometimes you have to defend your beliefs and even yourself against gross misrepresentation for the sake of the audience, or all kinds of strange ideas are only going to get perpetuated. It's a similar situation to why we insist on the Law although we are not bound by it and want to see people freed from it. It is the only sensible way the world of fallen humanity can be run.
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As for defending jazz for speaking from the heart, an awful lot of evil can be spoken from the heart, spoken "honestly." Any of us is capable of that kind of destructive "honesty." It can do great harm to others. It isn't just self-defensive to call it for the evil it is.
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Message 89 of 223 (327829)
06-30-2006 4:27 PM 		Reply to: Message 87 by Jazzns
06-30-2006 4:07 PM

Re: Over the Line
Whether one is a Christian or not is an objective matter, determined by the standards of the historical church. Certainly there are different views on this; I judge from the Bible inerrantist view that is shared by most traditionalist theologians. I have to wonder whether you are or not, I am not quite sure. I have to wonder in the case of most liberals, though some I don't have as much of a problem with as others. I am 99% sure GDR is a saved man, for instance, although he has some liberal views I disagree with. I am at least 99% sure some others are not.
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Misrepresenting someone, imputing evil motives to them is something else altogether than judging whether someone meets the objective standards to be a Christian.
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Message 96 of 223 (327955)
07-01-2006 10:28 AM 		Reply to: Message 77 by robinrohan
06-30-2006 1:57 PM

Re: Over the Line
stereotypical fundamentalist position
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This I puzzled over. Why would one set up a stereotype and then attack it?
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I guess he meant that some of these people are depraved and some are not--that he was referring to some but not all fundamentalists.
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Something like that is all I can conclude too. I think really he misused the word "stereotypical" -- he really meant "most typically fundamentalist" or "most fundamentalist."
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SORRY, JUST SAW OFF TOPIC WARNING.
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07-01-2006 10:30 AM 		Reply to: Message 1 by Larni
06-26-2006 8:28 PM

I guess I'll correct my off-topic mistake by giving an answer to the OP, not that there's much to it: No, evc hasn't changed my beliefs. Maybe confirmed me more solidly in them.
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Message 134 of 223 (329072)
07-05-2006 8:31 PM 		Reply to: Message 120 by lfen
07-02-2006 2:26 PM

Two literalist fundamentalist will disagree over whether Jesus is or isn't God for example with great tenacity as if they could know?
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Um, just a point of definition. Anybody who does not believe that Jesus is God is NOT a "literalist fundamentalist." Things are confused enough as it is without going that direction.
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07-07-2006 8:22 PM 		Reply to: Message 173 by Buzsaw
07-07-2006 8:19 PM

Re: God's enemies.
Off topic so deleted.
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