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Author Topic:   Polygamy that involves child abuse - Holmes, Randman, CS?
anglagard
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Message 4 of 126 (462767)
04-09-2008 3:18 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Taz
04-09-2008 2:20 AM


I find it fascinating that this cult compound is within the service area of my college employer yet I have heard little on the issue from the locals. It is interesting to see someone you have met and worked with interviewed by the national news media.
I find it disturbing that in the face of violence against women that the so-called Christians around these parts are either silent or, in one instance, supportive of such abuse.
Hopefully such silence is not an indication of support but rather my lack of being 'in the loop.'
Edited by anglagard, : No reason given.

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon
The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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anglagard
Member (Idle past 867 days)
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From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
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Message 107 of 126 (463805)
04-20-2008 5:12 PM


Another Issue
The problems involving this cult extend beyond child abuse and 'hate the world' philosophy common to religio-suicidal endeavors such as Heaven's Gate, the Branch Davidians, or the Jim Jones Guyana episode. One problem that has not been addressed is how the 'church' has taken tax rebates and food stamp money from the American taxpayer under false pretenses.
From The Independent
quote:
Long-time observers of the FLDS say the confusion is part of a long-standing strategy of trying to wrongfoot the authorities. In fact, the FLDS has long had an overt policy of trying to sting the government for everything it can - in the form of food stamps, tax breaks and subsidies. An FLDS member will generally declare his first marriage and take the tax benefit, then let his subsequent wives claim welfare as unemployed single mothers. Down the years, the church has earned hundreds of millions of dollars in public funds this way, a process it describes derisively as "bleeding the beast".
This cult has managed to perform the ultimate sin in the eyes of the US Government and that is not polygamy or pedophilia, but rather they have come between the IRS and 'its' money.
Also, I think that once a given cult decides it overtly requires government subsidies, then it loses any absolute right to privacy, or indeed secrecy.
Besides I personally do not like my tax money going to any pedophile cult anymore than I like it going to Haliburton or Blackwater.

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon
The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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