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Author Topic:   Have 600,000 Iraqis died violently since 2003?
jar
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Message 23 of 77 (357247)
10-18-2006 12:09 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Hyroglyphx
10-18-2006 11:41 AM


Sorry but even the author of your link says he was wrong.
If you read the very article you linked to in your message at the very top it has a link to the response from the author himself.
Here is what the author says about the piece you linked to:
"Further to my article of Friday on this subject. I'm afraid I mangled the statistical argument. My inadequate knowledge of the subject led me to make an argument that is incorrect. I stand by my contention that there is something fishy about this study (leaving aside the politically motivated timing of its publication, something the author has been clear about himself) yet have to admit that I have not found it, leaving me with nothing but personal prejudice upon which to stand my argument. I would also like to make clear that this subject was not "assigned" to me, the idea, research, argument and errors were all my own, as was my request for this clarification. Just in case you are wondering, being fact checked by the Pajamahaddin and being found in error does hurt and I hope that future writings will be, where necessary, so corrected."
I repeat the significant statement: "leaving me with nothing but personal prejudice upon which to stand my argument."
Personal prejudice.
You can find his somewhat selfserving retraction at the bottom of this page

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 41 of 77 (357558)
10-19-2006 7:01 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by Wounded King
10-19-2006 4:23 PM


Re: Mathematical improbability
He was saying that that is what the news sounds like, but that if 400 people a day were dying the reports would be more like "80 civilians dead after being caught in crossfire as coalition troops battle insurgents. 100 die in indiscriminate airstrike".
Well, you do hear the numbers killed. Whether it is coalition gunfire is really not the issue. We were the ones that removed what governing bodies there were. Will the survivors, family and friends of those dying blame the other Iraqis or the US?
For example, if you just google +iraq +bodies you get a whole string of such reports, 60 in Bagdad, 20 in Mosul, 16 tortured bodies from some unspecified location.
The point is that lots of people have died and are dying. Whether it is 600,000 or 300,000 or just 100,000 it is a lot of folk.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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