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Message 13 of 33 (435065)
11-18-2007 8:20 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by RAZD
11-18-2007 7:13 PM


Razd,
Don't forget to include no evidence of anything older than 9,500 years old in Siberia and the Purdue study saying the artic sea temperature not air temp was approximately 73 degree's.
Simple is not me, but whatever in respect to the temp if the artic sea temp was 73 degrees no way greenland present mountain of ice could of existed.
A mountain of ice how would a tropical temperature over thousands of years not melt the base away from a mountain of ice.
Its not like a snow capped mountains you see in Seattle Washington held up by solid rock. No matter how you spin it the russian study does not support an old earth you need to change your thread to Evidence for a young earth, etc...
Enjoy !!!!!

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Message 14 of 33 (435066)
11-18-2007 8:23 PM
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11-18-2007 4:18 PM


What chance do the evilutionists have now?
Come on now you make it sound like they will be beating their heads against their computer.

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Message 17 of 33 (435156)
11-19-2007 1:24 PM
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11-19-2007 11:42 AM


Aren't you moving the goal post in this statement? Every creationist statement in the past has been that Earth and the rest of the universe is 6,000 years old (more specifically around 5,700).
If the russian study would of found nothing older than 6,000 years or everything older than 9,500 years it would of been a problem with taking the bible literally 9,500 years fits fine. 2 peter 3:8.

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Message 22 of 33 (435171)
11-19-2007 4:15 PM
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11-19-2007 3:48 PM


Here's a link an interesting unbiased study showing nothing dating older than 9,640 years.
Enjoy !!!!
14C DATING OF PEAT AND 18O-D IN GROUND ICE FROM NORTHWEST SIBERIA (Vasil’chuk et al., 2001)
Click here for html version.
Edited by AdminWounded, : Linked PDF and tidied up non-PDF link.
Edited by reversespin, : No reason given.

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Message 25 of 33 (435180)
11-19-2007 5:30 PM
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11-19-2007 5:16 PM


The article doesn't say that 'nothing in Siberia is less than 9,500 years old'. The article is about a specific strata, 'Holocene peat deposits' grew faster than previously estimated.
Holocene is just a word it means nothing given nothing older than 9,500 years found but only younger in agreement with a young earth.

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Message 26 of 33 (435182)
11-19-2007 5:40 PM
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11-19-2007 4:53 PM


If the russian study would of found nothing older than 6,000 years or everything older than 9,500 years it would of been a problem with taking the bible literally 9,500 years fits fine. 2 peter 3:8.
If the C-14 dating would of come back 6,000 years or younger then it would of conflicted with 2 peter 3:8.

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Message 29 of 33 (435213)
11-19-2007 8:02 PM
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11-19-2007 7:27 PM


Brian figured it out that were into the second week since the beginning of the creation week.
The dates of the peat on page 7 & 8 are basically 9,500 or less not 6,000 years or less meaning were well into the 2nd week since the beginning of the first creation day.
If you count the days since Adam were approximately 6,000 years but the fossils dates suggest were approximately 12,000 years from the beginning of the first creation day. 12,000 - 3,000 = 9,000 years ago.
However the 3,000 figure is based on the end of the 3rd day so add 1000 years and you have 10,000 years ago the beginning of the 3rd creation day. Nothing older than 9,500 years supports genesis 1:11 was not at the beginning of the 3rd creation day but the middle of the 3rd day.
Thats my take and I suspect what Brian was hinting at from the sidelines that were into Friday of the second week.

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