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Author Topic:   Atheists identified as America’s most distrusted minority
nator
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Message 18 of 60 (299757)
03-31-2006 9:02 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Mammuthus
03-31-2006 4:49 AM


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It is of interest that the East and West coasts where the largest concentrations of institutes of higher education are located are more accepting.
Not just that, but the US coasts tend to have a much greater ethnic and cultural diversity; just the cities of New York and Los Angeles alone probably represent much of the US's mixing of these elements of society.
Another intellectual disconnect that I find fascinating is the obvious mistake these people are making about who is morally bankrupt in the US.
I mean, if they just thought for a minute...
1) They believe that the us is in a moral decline.
2) This has coincided with an increse in Fundamentalist Christianity
3) The politicians who seem to be the most connected with Fundies also seem to be the most corrupt.
4) The corporate robber barons who are shockingly amoral are certainly not Athiests...

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nator
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Message 19 of 60 (299761)
03-31-2006 9:10 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by Silent H
03-31-2006 5:11 AM


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A telephone sampling of 2000 households is hardly the basis for drawing conclusions about America at large.
If it is done correctly, 2000 households is a perfectly valid sample size.

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nator
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Message 22 of 60 (299808)
03-31-2006 11:55 AM
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03-31-2006 10:36 AM


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The sentence immediately following the sentence you quoted was intended to get at the point "if it is done correctly". I thought the article's mentioning of numbers was pointless, without any discussion of methodology. 2000 households where? When? That was what I was intending to criticize. And the fact that it was a telephone survey did not help.
Do you really believe that a the authors of a published study from a major university's sociology department are going to be ignorant of these things?
Why not reserve judgement and criticize the actual paper instead of criticizing strawmen of your own construction?
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That said, I actually do not believe 2000 is enough of a sample size to properly draw conclusions about a population of over 400 million spread in reality over the entire world.
So, you are an expert statictician now, as well?
Goodness, if you were to publish your revolutionary statistical theory it would turn the field on it's head.
I strongly encourage you to do so.
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nator
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Message 26 of 60 (299827)
03-31-2006 2:41 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by melatonin
03-31-2006 2:02 PM


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It'll be in the april issue of the american psychological review.
I think it's actually in the American Sociological Review.

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