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Author Topic:   Atheists identified as America’s most distrusted minority
Parasomnium
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Message 51 of 60 (309303)
05-05-2006 6:01 AM
Reply to: Message 50 by ReverendDG
05-05-2006 12:20 AM


Nutter or Liar?
Which means that any U.S. politician who wants to be elected MUST profess to be religious, whether they are or not.
Here's something I picked up somewhere:
President Bush told Texas evangelist James Robinson that "I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen . . . I know it won't be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it."
(source)
It is possible that Bush really believes this. It is also possible that he was lying.
I find both possibilities equally disturbing.

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Message 53 of 60 (309318)
05-05-2006 7:58 AM
Reply to: Message 52 by iano
05-05-2006 7:17 AM


Re: Nutter or Liar?
iano writes:
That it is Gods will is also a possibility.
Although I was mainly concerned with Bush's own motives, which warranted a strict dichotomy, yes, logically speaking, God's existence is also a possibility, albeit a remote one in my opinion. And I would not find that disturbing in the least, if God is the way he is always portrayed to be. After all, who would not want to have Santa in town permanently?
But what I would find very, very disturbing - if not utterly incongruent - is that God would choose George W. Bush, of all people, to be his instrument. I mean, Bush is even purported to have said that "God speaks through him." Good grief! If that's true, then either the Almighty must have lost grip on his public relations department for good, or his sense of humour has taken a turn for the worse.
I know, I know, "God works in mysterious ways." Well, in this life, I'm in no mood for his pranks, and unless he doesn't mind my disbelief in him, he'd better start clearing up his act.
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Parasomnium
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Message 54 of 60 (309327)
05-05-2006 8:24 AM


Afterthought
As an afterthought:
"I would like to thank Providence and the Almighty for choosing me of all people to be allowed to ..."
Guess who said that. No, not Bush. The sentence ends with "...wage this battle for Germany" and was spoken by Adolf Hitler before he launched his doctrine of preventive war against all of Europe.
So if we have to go by George's own account, then we should also accept that God chose Hitler to be his instrument too.
Somehow, that thought sits uncomfortably with me. If anyone should be distrusted, it's people who proclaim their own divine election.
This message has been edited by Parasomnium, 05-May-2006 01:25 PM

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Message 57 of 60 (309393)
05-05-2006 1:37 PM
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05-05-2006 12:21 PM


Re: Nutter or Liar?
iano writes:
Pharoh was a git who did some not nice stuff.
I think you'll find that in those days almost anybody with power would fit that description.
Judas was utilised for Gods plan too.
Maybe. But Judas didn't say: "Listen up people, next week I'm gonna betray Jesus. It's part of God's plan and that's the job He told me to do. (But I won't go sharing no thirty silver pieces with no God, He can make his own damn money.)"
What I'm saying is that he didn't go around advertising the fact. Neither did the Pharaoh, for that matter. Would have been a bit silly, wouldn't it: the Pharaoh didn't even believe in God, being an Egyptian god himself.
God just uses the actions to weave his tapestry.
Well, thanks for letting me know. Next time I need an interior decorator, I'll know where not to go.
This message has been edited by Parasomnium, 05-May-2006 07:39 PM

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.
Did you know that most of the time your computer is doing nothing? What if you could make it do something really useful? Like helping scientists understand diseases? Your computer could even be instrumental in finding a cure for HIV/AIDS. Wouldn't that be something? If you agree, then join World Community Grid now and download a simple, free tool that lets you and your computer do your share in helping humanity. After all, you are part of it, so why not take part in it?

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