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Message 75 of 162 (446678)
01-06-2008 10:16 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by obvious Child
01-04-2008 4:12 AM


quote:
But we are 'toast' as we know it if a big spending liberal with a extremely socially conservative agenda wins the General. Four years of someone worse then Dubya?
Exactly who on earth are you referring to?

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Message 77 of 162 (446686)
01-06-2008 10:54 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by macaroniandcheese
01-04-2008 10:15 AM


quote:
it's generally safe to say that after a few years have passed and the next guy is in office, almost everything seems less awful than it did when it was happening, and the doom-sayers are never really right.
I was right in my predictions about pretty much everything bad that has come out of the Iraq war:
Posted by me, here, on March 27, 2003, exactly one week after the start of the war.
The world SAFER? I predict that this war will only make things much less safe for Americans. I predict that it will make it much more likely that a fundamentalist moslem dictatorship will take over in Iraq eventually as well as promoting radical anti-American sentiment throughout the Arab and Moslem world, making terrorism more likely. I think that we will have to work very, very hard to gain back our prestige and credibility internationally. I think this war has made our future dealings with North Korea even more difficult.
I must be a military strategy genious.
Edited by nator, : No reason given.

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Message 79 of 162 (446692)
01-06-2008 11:17 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by LinearAq
01-04-2008 11:14 AM


Re: Poster Boy for the Religious Right
quote:
Anti-abortion to the point where he is for a constitutional amendment to ensure the rights of the unborn. (See Ringo, it could happen.]
Women relegated to being nothing more than mobile uteruses sounds like a Christian Utopia, I know.
quote:
I think that pretty much says it all. I guess freedom for him means "free to do what my religion tells you is right".
Yes.
The fact that he is taken seriously at all, anywhere in the country is frankly terrifying and disgusting to me.
I am ashamed of so many Americans for being so ignorantly, gleefully Fascist.

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Message 81 of 162 (446696)
01-06-2008 11:22 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Buzsaw
01-04-2008 11:46 AM


Re: Poster Boy for the Religious Right
quote:
These standards are the ones which have made the nation the world's most blessed, where freedom has rang for the first two centuries.
...except for places like Sweden, which has a much better educated populace and a much higher standard of living than we have here in the US.
Right?
And, last I checked, US citizens no longer enjoy the right of habeas corpus, are not free from secret government wiretapping, not free from being "disappeared", are not free from all sorts of rights that people in other countries still enjoy.
We are becomeing much more like a South American banana republic than a free democratic republic.

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Message 82 of 162 (446697)
01-06-2008 11:28 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by macaroniandcheese
01-04-2008 2:18 PM


Re: Atleast openly a bigot and in favor of mandated ignorance.
quote:
is birth control legal yet?
Yes.
Not abortion, though.

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Message 83 of 162 (446704)
01-06-2008 11:50 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by Hyroglyphx
01-06-2008 9:57 PM


Re: Poster Boy for the Religious Right
quote:
Unless you completely water down your faith to the point of it being indiscernable, and for all intents and purposes, non-existent, those who stand up for their beliefs will invariably be ridiculed for them.
No, not "invariably".
People are only ridiculed if their beliefs are worthy of ridicule.
Take President Carter. He is a devout, practicing Christian that has stated many times that his decades of helping and empowering underprivilaged people and in being a moderating voice in world conflicts are a direct manifestation of his religious beliefs.
Only the most cynical, coldhearted (and lame) people ridicule Carter for the amazing work he has done.
George Bush, however, wages a lot of needless war, ignores an awful lot of worldwide suffering, and has, by all accounts, had no hesitation or difficulty in executing a lot of Texans for someone who professes to follow the "Prince of Peace".
Actions speak much louder than words, and most of the time, when people are "ridiculed" for their personal religious beliefs, it is because what they are really doing is being ridiculed for wanting to force everybody else, by power of law, to adhere to their personal religious beliefs. Or their personal moral code based upon their particular religious beliefs. Like the Christian version of Sharia.
That is worthy of ridicule.

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Message 84 of 162 (446705)
01-06-2008 11:53 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by arachnophilia
01-06-2008 11:08 PM


quote:
what a brilliantly ironic typo.
damn.

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Message 86 of 162 (446710)
01-06-2008 11:59 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by Hyroglyphx
01-06-2008 9:57 PM


Re: Poster Boy for the Religious Right
quote:
And yet no one cries foul ball that the Constitution is being trampled there.
quote:
Oh, right, which explains why they so fervently go after Al Qaeda, while those on the Left harbor them?????
See, here you are wrong, so very wrong in your facts again (the second quote being an offensive, outrageous, Coulteresque slander), and I am willing to bet that you will ignore the rebuttals/corrections by Rhavin and jar as if they never happened.
Edited by nator, : No reason given.

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Message 109 of 162 (447130)
01-08-2008 7:53 AM
Reply to: Message 94 by Hyroglyphx
01-07-2008 12:48 AM


Re: Poster Boy for the Religious Right
quote:
Here are two high profile libs with their hand in the cookie jar.
High profile?
I had never heard of these people before.

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Message 110 of 162 (447131)
01-08-2008 7:57 AM
Reply to: Message 94 by Hyroglyphx
01-07-2008 12:48 AM


Re: Poster Boy for the Religious Right
quote:
We also live in a Democracy where the People can cast their vote for what morals should be fixed.
"Majority rule" doesn't apply to our civil rights, and never has.
Yet again, you are so very wrong about basic facts.

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Message 143 of 162 (448592)
01-14-2008 7:04 AM
Reply to: Message 134 by Hyroglyphx
01-13-2008 3:13 AM


Re: Poster Boy for the Religious Right
quote:
Homosexuals have the exact same protections under the law as anyone else.
No they don't.
It is perfectly legal to fire someone because they are gay, or deny them housing, or prevent them from adopting or fostering unwanted children, or get married.
Where do you get this stuff?

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