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Author Topic:   Ray Comfort to "debate" on ABC Nightline
Rahvin
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Message 17 of 26 (400244)
05-11-2007 2:40 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by sidelined
05-05-2007 11:15 AM


Considering they mentioned the Bible within the first 10 minutes, as well as all of the "you're a sinner, you'd better watch out!" BS, I got the distinct impression that this had nothing to do with debate.
Ray and Kirk were simply "witnessing" to the audience, nothing more. They just wanted cameras and a few million viewers to watch them preach. If you notice, they said almost exactly the same things they say in their clips of regular conversion attempts. This was a publicity stunt, nothing more.
Make sure you watch the full, unedited version online. The edited version they played on TV, so I hear, was biased to the extreme against the Atheists.
Speaking of which, the moderator toward the end was being an idiot. The Atheists were asked about transitional forms, and responded that all species are transitional. The moderator kept interrupting the explanation to the point that the question was left almost unanswered. If he had just shut the hell up and let them speak, he might have cleared up one of the biggest misconceptions about evolution held by the American public.
I really wish Dawkins had been there, though. The RRS is decent, and I like them, but the fact is they aren't as verbally eloquent as Dawkins. He's just better equipped for public debate, I think.
My favorite part was in the Q&A session, when the RRS provided a laundry list of Atheist societies and statistics showing they have the lowest amounts of violence, murders, infant mortality, etc, and then showed the uber-religious US as being basically the worst, statistically. So much for "morality requires a deity."

Every time a fundy breaks the laws of thermodynamics, Schroedinger probably kills his cat.

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Message 26 of 26 (400412)
05-13-2007 11:56 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by Asgara
05-13-2007 11:31 AM


Re: Critical Thinking vs Comfort zones
HE called for this debate to "prove" the existence of god with OUT using faith or the bible.
Indeed. When he was listing through the Ten Commandments, I think he forgot that "Thou shalt not bear false witness" applies to HIM, too.
Not to mention the lies about evolution. Those would normally be excusable as simply ignorance, but he's been doing this idiocy long enough it's no longer an excuse. He's just a dishonest asshole who likes threatening people with fire and brimstone.

Every time a fundy breaks the laws of thermodynamics, Schroedinger probably kills his cat.

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