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Teapots&unicorns
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Message 280 of 286 (513246)
06-26-2009 7:00 PM
Reply to: Message 279 by Stile
05-25-2009 12:37 PM


Re: My point throughout this thread
Hi Everybody!
This is one of the problems I have with religion. Parents and adults can follow their religion/faith all they want; I don't care.
But once they step over the boundary and not only indoctrinate their children, but also force them to blindly follow beliefs that could harm them (like this), then I have an issue with it. Minors are not their parents' religion. They are their own people and can make their own faith-related decisions.
Similarly, he suggests, a phrase such as "Catholic child" or "Muslim child" should be considered just as socially absurd as, for instance, "Marxist child": children should not be classified based on their parents' ideological beliefs.[81] According to Dawkins, there is no such thing as a Christian child or a Muslim child.
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Message 284 of 286 (513297)
06-27-2009 12:21 PM
Reply to: Message 283 by Hyroglyphx
06-27-2009 11:18 AM


Re: parents rights
It has been decided, as I understand it, that if the parents try to deny necessary medical attention then the state can step in and gain temporary custody to make the necessary decisions. Exactly this situation has arisen here more than once and the parents were not allowed to stop the medical attention needed.
This is a tough situation for me because both sides have pro's and con's. On the one hand it is a dangerous thing for the State to decide what is best for someone else's child. It's also a dangerous thing for the child not to have the State step in.
In my opinion, parents should have the final say unless their choice would harm the child in any way, whether mentally, psychologically, or (especially) physically, as in this case. Any parent who would put religion ahead of their child's welfare does not deserve to be a parent.

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Teapots&unicorns
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Message 286 of 286 (513326)
06-27-2009 7:39 PM
Reply to: Message 285 by Hyroglyphx
06-27-2009 12:37 PM


Re: parents rights
Sounds like a reasonable solution in theory.
In theory, yes; but when you try to put it into play, you will have religious parents suing on account of their children being tortured in hell or some such crap on account of being allowed to live. Then you get into that whole "separation of church and state" thing again; you have to define it over and over again to those modern bigots who demand their views made into law.

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