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Author Topic:   Help me find a hypocrite!
Buzsaw
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Message 92 of 160 (415561)
08-10-2007 8:35 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Nuggin
04-14-2007 9:35 PM


Buzsaw's Two Bits.
Nuggins writes:
A recent (though certainly not most recent) example is Ted Haggard, the Fundy anti-gay preacher who was exposed as a Meth-head and a homosexual.
Then, after a good three day class in how not to be gay, he returned to his flock with open arms - a "cured" man...........
The problem I have is that they ALL seem to be from the political right?.
Aren't there any hypocrites on the left? Maybe an openly gay senator who's actually straight? Or world reknowned atheist who's actually secretly a cardinal in the Catholic church?.........
I put this out as a challenge to all - fundies and scientists - find me some politically left hypocrites!
From the above exerpts of your OP you appear to mix your politics with religion so I'll add to the mix.
Example #1. I know I'll get flack on this but nevertheless I have always viewed it as hypocritical science and likely always will. From what I read of brother ICANT, likely he is with me on this. On the one hand mainline secularist science disallows any hint of the supernatural into the science agenda until the supernatural can be verified. On the otherhand mainline secularist science which bases much of it's agenda on the observable thermodynamic laws rests on the alleged fact that the universe, energy and space/time is temporal (about 15 billion years last I heard), having no before and no outside of without verification.
Example #2. On the one hand, the FDA, in the power & $$ bed with the pharmaceuticals, hospitals & mainline medical practitioners, is ever so fussy about relatively minor problems with the herbals, vitamin & mineral alternative health agenda, disallowing pretty much any claims to advocating as treatment. On the other hand, several hundred thousand deaths and who knows how much suffering is tolerated in the billions of $$ pharmaceutical driven conventional health agenda blessing them along with all the devastating side effects with all the claim for effective treatments of the given ailments. Compared to the hundreds of thousands of deaths & likely millions of side effect complications, the alternative wholistic health practitioners and the products are the cause of nearly no deaths and relatively few side effects, nearly all side effects being good for the user or patient.
The purpose, of course of this thread is not to get into spinoff debate on above topics but to address the fact that to some of us the above are examples of what we see as hypocritical.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past.

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Buzsaw
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Message 93 of 160 (415563)
08-10-2007 9:00 PM


Here's Another.
Tree huggers and greenie type (usually leftist) decry, complain, march & demonstrate against just about anything related to carbon dioxide, all the while ignoring the fact that the trees they hug and the green they claim to be promoting trives luciously on the carbon dioxide they are demonstrating against. The more carbon dioxide we read and hear about from these hypocrits, the more of a jungle the woods on my land is becoming and the more oxygen the lush growth is producing for me and my neighbors to breath. I need a machette sometimes to get up the paths anymore. Not only that, my sweet corn gets taller every year, this year about 8 ft tall & growing.
The hypocracy is that the leftists harp and whine about their agenda (partly politically driven) all the while ignoring the trade off of good that comes with the mix.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past.

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Buzsaw
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Message 103 of 160 (415608)
08-11-2007 1:36 AM


In spite of the criticism of my examples of hypocracy, though conceeding that there are factors on both sides of the issues subject to debate, there is a significant element of hypocracy in all three of my examples in that the leftist camp weighs in heavy on their agenda while supressing what they don't want to admit relative to their claims. The hypocracy tends toward empowering establishment & government while undermining freedom in all three examples.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past.

  
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