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riVeRraT
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Message 1 of 29 (270871)
12-19-2005 5:15 PM


Well with all the complaints about all the religions, and why shjould I choose one over the other, and which one is the right one, I think I am starting to narrow it down.
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Warning, this my be offensive to somebody.
Proof positive, to me anyway, that tradition sucks.

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riVeRraT
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Message 4 of 29 (270882)
12-19-2005 5:35 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Nighttrain
12-19-2005 5:19 PM


Re: Mutilation
Whos we?
This just happened.

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riVeRraT
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Message 7 of 29 (271640)
12-22-2005 8:49 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Brian
12-20-2005 7:45 AM


Re: Judaism out, let's add Christianity
Great post!
But the differences between all that "Christian" BS you posted and what the Rabbi is doing, is that what the Rabbi is doing is accepted.
What the Priest did is not accepted.
Or do I feel that Catholism is correct at all. Catholism does not represent Christianity as a whole, just like a Mexican does not represent all hispanic people.
2 down.

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riVeRraT
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Message 8 of 29 (271642)
12-22-2005 8:57 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by Silent H
12-20-2005 9:37 AM


Tradition sucks, get it?
I do not feel a need to circumise, or did Jesus.
Tradition does suck, it is created by, and run by man.
This time tradition literally does suck, but no-one got it. It is not as funny when you have to explain the joke. Is everyone here so uptight towards Christians that they cannot even see the joke? This is the coffee house isn't it?
Besides all that, I do not think sucking a babies bloody penis is a good idea at all, or do I know of any biblical references to it.
No I do not blame all of the Jews for it either.
Jesus help us.

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riVeRraT
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Message 14 of 29 (271767)
12-22-2005 3:40 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Silent H
12-22-2005 9:19 AM


Re: Tradition sucks, get it?
quote:
The tradition of circumcision is most certainly in the Bible. From what little I know of scripture on circ, Paul speaks slightly for it and sometimes against it, but more against it because its boastful and prideful rather than overtly wrong. The Gospel of Thomas has Jesus deriding it as not useful. That would be neither prescribed nor proscribed activity.
Colossians 3:11
Here there is no Greek or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all.
Galatians 6:13
Not even those who are circumcised obey the law, yet they want you to be circumcised that they may boast about your flesh.
Galatians 6:12
Those who want to make a good impression outwardly are trying to compel you to be circumcised. The only reason they do this is to avoid being persecuted for the cross of Christ.
Galatians 5:2
Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all.
1 Corinthians 7:18
Was a man already circumcised when he was called? He should not become uncircumcised. Was a man uncircumcised when he was called? He should not be circumcised.
Romans 4:12
And he is also the father of the circumcised who not only are circumcised but who also walk in the footsteps of the faith that our father Abraham had before he was circumcised.
There is more too, but obviously it is not important to be circumcised anymore to in Christ. Being circumcised means zip, it is what is in your heart.
At least at some point God wanted foreskins. Maybe he sucked on them in heaven? I dunno.
Just wonderful theology, no really. We should all follow your reasoning. But at least you admit there is a God. LOL.

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riVeRraT
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Message 15 of 29 (271772)
12-22-2005 3:43 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Funkaloyd
12-22-2005 9:21 AM


Re: Judaism out, let's add Christianity
And Orthodox Jews don't represent all of Judaism.
Please point out where I said that.
Let me save you some time, and point to message 8 where I said:
quote:
No I do not blame all of the Jews for it either.
Jesus was circumcised (Luke 2:21). But if you feel like discarding a bunch of religious laws and traditions because they're too much hassle, well, that's what Protestantism is for.
Read my previous message.
Yes I hate tradition.
No protestantism is not the answer either.
In my eyes, every single religion is lacking.

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riVeRraT
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Message 16 of 29 (271776)
12-22-2005 3:51 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Brian
12-22-2005 1:59 PM


Re: Judaism out, let's add Christianity
But it isn't accepted by the whole of Judaism
Yes, I pointed that out, and it was pointed out in the link.
As for the preists molesting kids, you seem to have missed the part where the article said "He has returned to ministry in Michigan. "
No I did not miss the part, I pointed out that I do not agree with Catholism. To me that is a big mistake to let him go back, another reason to not accept catholism as the way and the truth.
But if others want to accept that, that is their problem, not mine.
Also, I see you ignore the rites of exorcism, you know where the preacher murdered the little child. Are you saying that casting out demons is not part of Christianity?
Casting out, or beating out, please be clear, and do not mix the 2, because I know your about to.
The Catholic Church has more members than the rest of the 1500 plus denominations of Christianity put together. You cannot just say RC is wrong because you don't believe that they are 'correct'!
Yes I can, and I just did.
But you appear to miss the double standard here, you want to dismiss Judaism because ONE rabbi,
Read message 8
You cannot reject an entire faith based on the practise of one man, or the belief of one group, if you could you would need to reject Christianity because RC is not 'correct' in your mind.
Wrong, I can, and I do. RC is not the way, period.
The point of the OP was a joke, yet everyone missed it.
No matter how you slice it, a picture of a rabbi sucking a babies penis is proof positive that tradtion sucks.
Take it what ever way you want, but at least I learned a few things about a few of you, LMAO.

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riVeRraT
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Message 18 of 29 (271941)
12-23-2005 7:19 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by Silent H
12-23-2005 5:08 AM


Re: Tradition sucks, get it?
This does not change the fact that GOD at one point (before Jesus) certainly did ask people to be Circumcized. After Jesus it just doesn't seem to be necessary.
More specifically he asked someone to tell everyone else.
Okay, why don't you tell me why God wanted foreskins? I mean what does he need them for?
First answer this question.
Did God want foreskins, or did he want us not to have them?
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riVeRraT
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Message 26 of 29 (272387)
12-24-2005 7:54 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by Silent H
12-23-2005 10:58 AM


Re: Tradition sucks, get it?
Genesis 17:10-12
10 This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised. 11 You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you. 12 For the generations to come every male among you who is eight days old must be circumcised, including those born in your household or bought with money from a foreigner”those who are not your offspring.
That is why circumcision came about. Its a symbol between God and man, nothing more. God doesn't need foreskins to suck on.

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riVeRraT
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Message 27 of 29 (272389)
12-24-2005 8:09 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by Ben!
12-23-2005 11:49 AM


Re: Judaism out, let's add Christianity
I think the fact that he baby died due to a failure to worry about herpes transmission is what sucked, not anything having to do with sucking blood from a penis. I find it sad that you're focused on something so small and cultural, rather than something ... bigger.
Yes, I focused on both of them, judge for yourself, and stop judging me.
Tradition doesn't suck.
Yes, it does suck, I showed you pictures of it, as well as showing that it sucks because that tradition was made by man, for whatever purpose he thought was viable, and now a baby is dead.
Yeah, way to use the death of another to make your funny point. Real fucking funny.
You best be careful Ben, I will be watching you now. I hope your not a hypocrite.
To be specific, I did not use the death of another to be funny. I used the tradition to make a joke, by showing a picture of a man performing a tradition of sucking a baby's penis, and pointing out that that tradition sucks. It was irony.
You made the reference to the dead person, not me.
The fact that no-one got it raises my eyebrow on the reading comprehension of people.
Lucky for you, I think intolerance is an important part of culture itself. So while you try to laugh at culture and tradition, it's actually the thing supporting your position.
No its not.
A real-life contradiction--culture and tradition truly do suck, but is what allows you to even realize that it does suck. And culture is an essential part of being human.
I guess millions of people dying is good, based on a tradition is good then.
If we all looked at people the way God look at us, we wouldn't have this problem, that is how I feel.
Don't get me wrong, I do not think all tradition sucks, but the traditions made by man for the selfishness of man does suck. I find that whole scene in those pictures just sick. Just like confessing to a Priest, and the control of the RC church in our society, Just like terrorists who fly planes into buildings.

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riVeRraT
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Message 28 of 29 (272390)
12-24-2005 8:11 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by Silent H
12-23-2005 12:32 PM


Re: Judaism out, let's add Christianity
(Eyebrows shoot up) Note to RR: Your conduct had to be pretty outrageous to elicit such a response.
Then you are part of it, by claiming that God wants to suck on foreskins.
But its funny how only the Christian gets singled out.
Pointing fingers at me doesn't free yourself, Only Jesus can do that for you.

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