Just sick

Well with all the complaints about all the religions, and why shjould I choose one over the other, and which one is the right one, I think I am starting to narrow it down.MSN | Outlook, Office, Skype, Bing, Breaking News, and Latest Videos
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Proof positive, to me anyway, that tradition sucks.

Well, RR, we outlawed female genital mutilation. One to go.

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Whos we?
This just happened.

Pretty gross RR, so I don't blame you for narrowing accpetable faiths down a little.So, now that you have shown Judaism to be repulsive and not recommended, what other faith's have you done looked at?To help you out, here's some information that will save you from having to consider Christianity as a decent faith. This is even more repulsive than your Rabbi story.Palm Beach, Fla. - Bishop J. Keith Symons quit in 1998 after admitting that he abused five boys while a priest in various Florida parishes many years earlier. He has returned to ministry in Michigan. Nice to see he is back in the fold.And what about this good Christian:An autistic eight-year-old boy has died during a prayer service held to supposedly cure him of the evil spirits blamed for causing his condition. An autistic child murdered by a moron who thought the child was possessed by a demon! Guess what the 'cure' was?one of the boy’s neighbours said that she had frequently witnessed church members beating the boy to “cure” him.

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Ray Hemphill, a minister at the Faith Temple Church of the Apolostic Faith, was being held at the Milwaukee county jail on suspicion of physical abuse of a child. The preacher helped the kid by: Apparently, Ray Hemphill lay on Terrance Cottrell Jr.'s chest for at least an hour while trying to release "demons" from him, before the boy died August 22, 2003 in an exorcism ritual. Apparently the preacher only got two and a half years in jail, there's justice for you.This Christianity really is a danger to mankind, how embarrassing do things need to get?So, Judaism and Christianity are obviously to be avoided, so which faith is next? Anyone else fancy having a look at Islam and see what they can dig up that will allow us to reject that too?Brian.

Might I ask what made this an issue for you all of a sudden? Surely you knew about circumcision. Are you suggesting that that is disgusting, or the tradition of sucking on the wound?The fact that these kids got herpes is due to lack of health concerns, or assumed 0 health risk. But its not like ordinary circumcisions without the sucking are problem free... including death. Those within that religion were probably as upset as having had a regular doctor botch a job.You may choose your religion on whatever criteria, and dislike whatever rituals, but I wasn't sure what tradition you were actually aiming at.

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

Great post!But the differences between all that "Christian" BS you posted and what the Rabbi is doing, is that what the Rabbi is doing is accepted.What the Priest did is not accepted.Or do I feel that Catholism is correct at all. Catholism does not represent Christianity as a whole, just like a Mexican does not represent all hispanic people.2 down.

I do not feel a need to circumise, or did Jesus.Tradition does suck, it is created by, and run by man.This time tradition literally does suck, but no-one got it. It is not as funny when you have to explain the joke. Is everyone here so uptight towards Christians that they cannot even see the joke? This is the coffee house isn't it?Besides all that, I do not think sucking a babies bloody penis is a good idea at all, or do I know of any biblical references to it.No I do not blame all of the Jews for it either.Jesus help us.

Wasn't Jesus circumcized? I think he had to be at that time didn't he? He was a Jew and trying to be King of the Jews, so it would seem odd that he would not have been a recipient of that tradition.The tradition of circumcision is most certainly in the Bible. From what little I know of scripture on circ, Paul speaks slightly for it and sometimes against it, but more against it because its boastful and prideful rather than overtly wrong. The Gospel of Thomas has Jesus deriding it as not useful. That would be neither prescribed nor proscribed activity. The sucking is with wine and meant to sterilize and anaesthetize the region. That was probably a good idea when they originally put it into practice (~100ad?) but obviously has a major flaw if the person sucking has a mouth full of disease.That was not biblical, but practical. Merely the hacking apart of the genitals was biblical. And whether you think Jesus was right or not, if you do believe the Bible then God most certainly did command it. At least at some point God wanted foreskins. Maybe he sucked on them in heaven? I dunno.

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

And Orthodox Jews don't represent all of Judaism. Jesus was circumcised (Luke 2:21). But if you feel like discarding a bunch of religious laws and traditions because they're too much hassle, well, that's what Protestantism is for.

Jesus did that in Mark 7. Give it a read. The Jews had taken God's Word found in the Old Testament and ADDED their own oral traditions to the law. These added traditions were called "the tradition of the elders."

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Luke 2:21 On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise him, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he had been conceived. Brian

But it isn't accepted by the whole of Judaism. Did Jesus have blood sucked out of his wee man?As for the preists molesting kids, you seem to have missed the part where the article said "He has returned to ministry in Michigan. "Th RC Church seem quite happy to cover up the pedoes that they employ, the practise is well known.Also, I see you ignore the rites of exorcism, you know where the preacher murdered the little child. Are you saying that casting out demons is not part of Christianity? The Catholic Church has more members than the rest of the 1500 plus denominations of Christianity put together. You cannot just say RC is wrong because you don't believe that they are 'correct'!But you appear to miss the double standard here, you want to dismiss Judaism because ONE rabbi, and I beieve the article actually emphasised that he was unique, sucks blood from little boys penises.You cannot reject an entire faith based on the practise of one man, or the belief of one group, if you could you would need to reject Christianity because RC is not 'correct' in your mind.Brian.

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The tradition of circumcision is most certainly in the Bible. From what little I know of scripture on circ, Paul speaks slightly for it and sometimes against it, but more against it because its boastful and prideful rather than overtly wrong. The Gospel of Thomas has Jesus deriding it as not useful. That would be neither prescribed nor proscribed activity.

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Colossians 3:11
Here there is no Greek or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all.Galatians 6:13
Not even those who are circumcised obey the law, yet they want you to be circumcised that they may boast about your flesh.Galatians 6:12
Those who want to make a good impression outwardly are trying to compel you to be circumcised. The only reason they do this is to avoid being persecuted for the cross of Christ.Galatians 5:2
Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all.1 Corinthians 7:18
Was a man already circumcised when he was called? He should not become uncircumcised. Was a man uncircumcised when he was called? He should not be circumcised.Romans 4:12
And he is also the father of the circumcised who not only are circumcised but who also walk in the footsteps of the faith that our father Abraham had before he was circumcised.There is more too, but obviously it is not important to be circumcised anymore to in Christ. Being circumcised means zip, it is what is in your heart. Just wonderful theology, no really. We should all follow your reasoning. But at least you admit there is a God. LOL.

Please point out where I said that.Let me save you some time, and point to message 8 where I said:

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No I do not blame all of the Jews for it either.

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Read my previous message.Yes I hate tradition.No protestantism is not the answer either.In my eyes, every single religion is lacking.