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Message 9 of 18 (489520)
11-27-2008 11:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by obvious Child
11-26-2008 6:48 PM


Practicing scientists? PHds? People who actually work in the field?
I think were all awed at the contributions of creation science just sit back and enjoy a documentary of those who actually work in the field of science talk about soil the foundation of life.
November 09, 2008
The Wonder of Creation--Soil: Foundation of Life, Part 1
November 16, 2008
The Wonder of Creation--Soil: Sustainer of Life, Part 2
November 23, 2008
The Wonder of Creation--Soil and the Work of Life, Part 3
http://www.rbc.org/...tv/day-of-discovery/past-programs.aspx
P.S. Creation science is based on the bible agreeing with genetics, natural selection, mutations, soils, biology, math, physics, geometry, water chemistry, chemistry, fossil age being young, etc... If you take the atheism out of evolution you have creation science. right? Since atheism by the courts has been determined to be a religion its tenents should be excised from the theory of evolution as its presently being taught in the classrooms. right? Otherwise the atheism in evolution is violating the seperation of church and state.
Its time to reword all the paleontology textbooks that infer the fossils are old, right? etc...Its a clear violation of church and state unless they allow the creationists scientific data that shows the fossils are all dating young, etc...
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LAW OF THE LAND
Court rules atheism a religion
Decides 1st Amendment protects prison inmate's right to start study group
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Message 13 of 18 (489529)
11-28-2008 12:56 AM
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11-27-2008 11:51 PM


the mere fact that evolution is consistent with one part of atheism doesn't mean that teaching evolution amounts to an establishment of religion.
It still is promoting atheism which is a religion to the exclusion of creationism's. Lets in all fairness excise the atheism out of evolution. Teaching evolution is a clear violation of the Constitution. right?
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Thomas Jefferson was a man of deep religious conviction - his conviction was that religion was a very personal matter, one which the government had no business getting involved in.
Jefferson's Wall of Separation Letter - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net
That religion, or the duty which we owe to our Creator, and the manner of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction, not by force or violence, and therefore all men have an equal, natural and unalienable right to the exercise of religion according to the dictates of conscience, and that no particular sect or society ought to be favored or established by law in preference to others.
Constitutional Topic: The Constitution and Religion - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net
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Message 17 of 18 (489535)
11-28-2008 1:17 AM
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11-28-2008 1:03 AM


Re: Atheism is a religion? Courts says it is !
Fine by me. You end up in the same place anyway.
We can just call it intelligent design not creationism.
P.S. Great we just solved how to take religion out of evolution.
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We have thus arrived at the answer to our question, What is Darwinism? It is Atheism. This does not mean, as before said, that Mr. Darwin himself and all who adopt his views are atheists; but it means that his theory is atheistic, that the exclusion of design from nature is, as Dr. Gray says, tantamount to atheism. ~ Charles Hodge
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