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nator
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Message 37 of 58 (275996)
01-05-2006 8:05 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
01-01-2006 11:31 PM


My question is this;
Is this the first time this has occurred to you?
I was making arguments like this before the war even began.

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Message 38 of 58 (275998)
01-05-2006 8:16 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by Buzsaw
01-04-2006 12:42 AM


Re: Plus Side Of The War
quote:
The plus side of the wars is that after the 9/11 wakeup call, our presence in the regions of Iraq and Afganistan has been a needed deterant to militant Islamic expansion in the region and to terrorism here in the states.
Buzsaw, how large was the militant Islamic presence in Iraq when Saddam Hussein was in power?
How large is it now?
Who was governor of Texas when he invited members of the Taliban to his state and treated them as honored guests?
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Message 39 of 58 (276000)
01-05-2006 8:25 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by Buzsaw
01-04-2006 3:48 PM


Re: The war an insignificant issue?
quote:
Don't forget, the whole nation was missinformed as to the extent of WMDs.
Well then, Zhimbo and I, and a bunch of other EvC posters must be political and military geniouses, because we never believed that there was any convincing evidence for WMD.
We never thought that they existed, and predicted long before the war began that they would never be found.

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nator
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Message 43 of 58 (276108)
01-05-2006 2:16 PM
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01-05-2006 9:45 AM


Re: The war an insignificant issue?
You are right.
I was treating buz's "the whole nation was misinformed" as equivalent to another one of his frequent sentiments, "the whole nation believed the administration when it said that Iraq ha vWMD.

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nator
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Message 44 of 58 (276110)
01-05-2006 2:19 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by Tal
01-05-2006 1:47 PM


quote:
They are basing their laws on Islamic law, much like the US based its laws on Christain law.
But the US didn't base it's constitution, nor the Bill of Rights, on Christian law.
What part of "Thou shalt not have any Gods before me" can be reconciled with a secular government that is areligious, and also with freedom of religion?
Last I checked, nobody in the US is requirred by law to be christian, nor follow any exclusively Christian tenets.
Doesn't that go against the very first commandment?
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nator
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Message 51 of 58 (276299)
01-06-2006 7:54 AM
Reply to: Message 50 by Buzsaw
01-06-2006 12:02 AM


Re: The war an insignificant issue?
quote:
Make that, 'Much of the world believed Iraq had WMDs and the Turks KNEW it
Care to back that up with some evidence, there, buz?
Are you still referring to the Kurds, whp are an Iraqi ethnic group in northern Iraq, as the "Turks", who have nothing to do with the Kurds and live in Turkey?
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nator
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Message 52 of 58 (276301)
01-06-2006 7:59 AM
Reply to: Message 50 by Buzsaw
01-06-2006 12:02 AM


I think you missed these questions, buz
quote:
The plus side of the wars is that after the 9/11 wakeup call, our presence in the regions of Iraq and Afganistan has been a needed deterant to militant Islamic expansion in the region and to terrorism here in the states.
Buzsaw, how large was the militant Islamic presence in Iraq when Saddam Hussein was in power?
How large is it now?
Who was governor of Texas when he invited members of the Taliban to his state and treated them as honored guests?

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