The great Jimmy Carter

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Originally posted by schrafinator:

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Originally posted by Percipient:

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This is the same "Great" Jimmy Carter that let the US embassy staff be brutalized in Tehran, correct?

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Jimmy Carter is a wonderful person and a great humanitarian, and his Nobel prize is well deserved, but he was possibly this century's worst US president. Even so, this view of the Iran Embassy crisis of the late 70s seems not only harsh but difficult to justify.

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--Percy

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I'd vote Ronald Reagan as the worst president. In a heartbeat.

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I would too. No amount of deification by conservative zombies (imagine - wanting a STATUE of that idiot on the Mall??!!) will change the facts.Most corrupt administration in U.S. history (in terms of inditments and convictions)Tripling of national debtI mean - for christ's sake, the guy actually not only thought the move "12 O'clock High" was real, but that he was part of it!

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Originally posted by schrafinator:
Some Reagan gems:

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"Approximately 80% of our air pollution stems from hydrocarbons released by vegetation. So let's not go overboard in setting and enforcing tough emissions standards for man-made sources."

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"Why should we subsidize intellectual curiosity?"

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"IF YOU'VE SEEN ONE REDWOOD TREE, YOU'VE SEEN THEM ALL."

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You forgot my favorite -"Facts are stupid things."A very telling Freudian slip...

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Unfortunatly we don't live in a socialist society where everyone is equal. Well fortunatly if you ask me. But its not my job to pay for someone else. I became educated and got a job, I didn't sit on my butt, collect welfare, have more kids I can't support and then expect the government to pay for it.

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The money we spend on individual welfare is miniscule compared to the ENORMOUS corporate welfare program in this country.

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I went to grad school with a conservative Christian. When we first met, he was very much a "if they don't earn it, they can starve" sort of guy (so much for that Christian compassion, eh?). His wife ended up getting a job with some community outreach group, and he soon started changing his views - on many things.
One day, out of the blue, he asked me what I thought about welfare. He then said something to the effect of "did you know that corporations get billions more in government handouts than individuals do?"
That, coupled with the things his wife was telling him (re: people living at the poverty line), made him do a near complete turn-around.My point being, it is easy to come down on one side of an issue like this when you have no knowledge of the other.