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Author Topic:   Francis Collins and Theistic Evolution (Re: the book "The Language of God")
crashfrog
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Message 6 of 46 (321274)
06-13-2006 10:11 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Faith
06-13-2006 9:29 PM


Re: I can't find any way to reconcile Evolution & Genesis
no way human beings could be made in the image of God and have come up from animals;
But coming up from clay is somehow less insulting? Easier to swallow?
Tell me, Faith - how much of the human body is comprised of silicon?
It's the irony that never gets old - the constant refrain of "the conclusions of evolution are sooooo ridiculous. Obviously the more reasonable story is the one where people are made out of clay, women are men with an extra rib, and a talking snake makes the world suck."
Honestly, though? Collins' ideas aren't much less silly. I think a good discussion is happening here:
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crashfrog
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Message 14 of 46 (321369)
06-14-2006 8:20 AM
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06-14-2006 1:40 AM


Re: I can't find any way to reconcile Evolution & Genesis
Now there is reasoned debate. You label the ideas of a man, who is probably just slightly more knowledgeable than yourself, as silly.
On the subject of biology, Collins certainly knows much, much more than I'm ever likely to know.
On the subject of God, there's a key fact that I'm aware of that Collins is not, so I will assert greater knowledge on that subject than he possesses. That key fact, of course, is that there are no gods.
But look, did you even read the article? You don't see the inherent contradicition in asserting, on one hand, that simply because we don't understand something, that's no proof of God; and then, almost in the next paragraph, asserting that because we don't understand the origin of something (human morality in his case), that's proof of God?
How could it get more contradictory than that? How else to describe that besides "silly"?

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crashfrog
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Message 15 of 46 (321370)
06-14-2006 8:21 AM
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06-14-2006 3:40 AM


Re: Francis Collins just needs to face down evolution completely
Skimming through the blog you linked does lead me to the conclusion that Collins is probably truly a Christian -- the degree of ridicule aimed at him makes that likely
Anyone who is ridiculed must be a Christian?
Wow. Just think, Faith, how many Christians you're responsible for creating, simply by your own efforts at this board! I should think that, by now, almost everyone you've ever chosen to respond to is probably a Christian at this point.

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crashfrog
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Message 22 of 46 (321494)
06-14-2006 3:31 PM
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06-14-2006 11:14 AM


Re: I can't find any way to reconcile Evolution & Genesis
There are no gods so we can close down this forum and all go back to worshipping the perfect lawn.
Well, I've only been telling people that for 12,000 posts, now...

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