hey evos

*snore*There are several active threads on this topic. Check out one of the various "information" threads.

How about the famous face on mars? It's just the product of erosion and shadows, but it looks a whole bunch like a face. Would that constitute as speciffic information? How about clouds that look like stuff in general?Also, I have a question for you. What is chance? In another thread we were pointing out how it dosn't truely exist in the phisical realm. That is, if I throw a pair of dice and I get double sixes, that wasn't so much chance as all the factors that went into the throw. Say, speed, wind resistance, shape of the board, etc. If I could manage to throw the dice in precisely the same way again, I would achive the same result.Thus anything on this earth weather clouds or life, are not so much a product of chance as they are the results of a long chain of cause and effect.[This message has been edited by Yaro, 03-10-2004]

Another thing taht bothers me about the whole "information" bit that ID'ers seem to tout.What is information?It seems to me that it's basicaly stuff that makes sense to us humans. Like, my alphabet soup suddenly makes a word and it's like "Holy crap, god made information in my soup! That word is Ireducably complex!"Bascaly, information, is just a convoluted way of saying "looks like stuff".