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ringo Member (Idle past 671 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
Do we really need to know that the world is round? If we thought it was flat, wouldn't we still have figured out how to get from A to B? Any practical use for Universal Common Ancestor?And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 671 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
All you have is denial. No matter how anybody answers you, you'll just deny, deny, deny. Because you can't. I'm right.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 671 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Scientists can decide for themselves whether or not something is useful to them. They don't need to take your misunderstanding into account.
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ringo Member (Idle past 671 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Deny, deny, deny. You're the one who's evading the objective examples that you've been given. You can deny the truth until the cows come home. Your evasion won't have one iota of effect on the usefulness of the Universal Common Ancestor. Obviously there simply is no objective usefulness to the ToE since all I'm getting is weird evasions.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 671 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Do you have your fingers in your ears as you adjust your blindfold? Do you have your right hand over your heart as you intone that credo?And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 671 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Read the OP: "I've been looking for a practical use in applied science for the information that all life on earth evolved from a microbe that existed billions of years ago...." It clearly is NOT about "microevolution of kinds", as you would call it. To the extent that this is going on it is about microevolution, period.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 671 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
When I had an internet connection at home, I was connected to the World Community Grid, which uses the idle time of members' computers to do tedious scientific calculations. They had mine doing protein folding. Sure way to win an argument is by talking technical gobbledygook. Proteins are large, complex molecules that can fold into various shapes (think Tinker-Toys). The parts that "stick out" determine how the protein interacts with its environment, so the different shapes that it can have are very important, particularly to medicine. We understand your difficulties with vision, so maybe you can't learn these things for yourself, but it's downright stupid of you to proclaim something "useless" when you haven't even bothered to understand it.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 671 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
It's knowledge that dovetails neatly with the ToE. Which says absolutely nothing about the ToE as stated.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 671 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
That's what we keep telling you. Your denial is worthless. Simply repeating the Creed doesn't amount to evidence.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 671 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
That's what I said. But it doesn't need a practical use to be true. This doesn't sound like a practical use for UCA.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 671 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
Then why are you wasting time with this thread? ringo writes:
I know. it doesn't need a practical use to be trueAnd our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 671 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
There are none that you will accept - but your acceptance is irrelevant.
I was wondering if anyone could provide an example of use for UCA, but it's becoming increasingly clear there are none. Dredge writes:
On the contrary, UCA is only one small part of ToE. You're saying the equivalent of, "Since there is no concrete use for the manufacturer's badge on a car, cars are useless." That's a very silly conclusion. Which makes the theory of evolution the scientific equivalent of a blank bullet - it makes a lot of noise and smoke and attracts a lot of attention, but it doesn't actually do anything.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 671 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
Message 25 "...scientists around the world are using the science of evolutionary biology to understand how life on our planet is reacting to a changing climate." Which practical use of UCA in applied science have I not accepted? You responded in Message 79 that, essentially, they could have figured that out anyway. Maybe so, but they DO use evolutionary biology. Your claim is the same as, "There is no use for a power saw; you can get the same result with a handsaw." That is not proof that power saws are useless. Edited by ringo, : Sp'ellinge.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 671 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Tanypteryx writes:
It is funny that he doesn't realize that his bullshit will never convince anyone working in any biological fields that they are doing it all wrong or that what they are learning has no value. What a sad, empty life his rules would create.*looks through microscope* "God did it." *looks through telescope* "God did it." "Wait a minute. Why are we wasting time and money on this when we know God did it?" Any practical use for a supernova or a black hole? And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 671 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Tanypteryx writes:
Maybe someday. But that would be like citing a possible someday cure for cancer as a use for UCA. FTL? It's a good thing we don't demand today uses for every scientific discovery. We'd still be running away from fire because it's burny-burny.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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