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creation Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
The distinction being oceans are huge. Seas can be smaller. But even if there was a big land mass surrounded by what we would call an ocean, a lot more water was introduced to the surface of earth.
Even assuming, as I do, that the high mountains were caused by post flood mountain building, a lot of water had to be involved with covering mountains.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
creation writes:
That's not a distinction.
The distinction being oceans are huge. Seas can be smaller. creation writes:
But even if there was a big land mass surrounded by what we would call an ocean...quote:There was one big body of water - an ocean. creation writes:
When? How? From where?
... a lot more water was introduced to the surface of earth. creation writes:
That's completely unscriptural. It's a fantasy made up by creationists to try to account for the fact that there isn't nearly enough water on earth to cover the mountains. Even assuming, as I do, that the high mountains were caused by post flood mountain building...And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.7 |
Hi creation,
creation writes: Hey, we don't know if there were oceans or not. There were seas. We know that there was lots of water as it was called the deep.
quote: If all the water was in one place that would mean there was one land mass that was dry. It would have had no bound lakes as the water would not be touching the rest of the water. We don't know the elevation of the dry land. It was just one continent. The Hebrew writer had a name for the body of water and it was not seas or oceans. Seas was provided by the translators. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.7 |
Hi creation,
creation writes: Gen starts off in the first verse telling us it was already finished. Done. Complete. Yes according to the Hebrew text of Genesis 1:1 the universe was a completed job. But according to the text of the verse following verse 1 it was in a mess and could not be inhabited by mankind which it was created for. But there is a verse that claims to be the history of the day that God created the heaven and earth in.
quote: According to that verse the verses that follow give us the history of the creation of the universe, in the day the Lord God created it.
creation writes: So whatever we see in the rest of the chapter has to be read with that in mind. The woman talked about there was the one already created. It just tells us some details of how. The verses in Genesis 1:2 thru Genesis 2:3 does not tell us anything about the day the universe began to exist. They only tell us what happened after the earth was covered with water in Genesis 1:2. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.7 |
Hi Aussie,
Aussie writes: You and ICANT are getting painful to read. Sorry to cause you such pain. It seems like I cause a lot of people pain as what I believe about creation does not sit well with those who say they believe the Bible and those who believe the Bible is a myth. You see I believe the earth and universe are very old. Older than what science says it is. The light period of "Day One" lasted from the beginning until God created the darkness found at Genesis 1:2. What was the duration of that light period? There is no way of knowing, I only know that at least eight generations of people lived and built cities during that time which was destroyed before Genesis 1:2. Jeremiah told us of that world in chapter 4:23-28.
quote: Peter talked about the same world in 2 Peter 3:5-7.
quote: I have always been told Peter was talking about the flood. If he was why did he say the world perished. The world did not perish in the flood there was 8 people left on earth plus all the animals that was on the ark with them. He talks about Noah's flood in the second chapter, and says nothing about that world being destroyed. You see I believe the Bible.The man formed from the dust of the ground had to die in the same light period he was formed as he was told: quote: The original text says die surely die. The woman that was cloned from the man formed from the dust of the ground could not be the same woman created in Genesis 1:27 as the woman created was created at the same time as the man not cloned from the man. The man and woman created could not be the same man an woman in chapter two as they were never forbidden from eating any fruit from any tree. If that makes your pain greater forgive me. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.7 |
Hi ringo,
ringo writes: There was one big body of water - an ocean. I am going to remember that the next time you argue the other side with me. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
I have never argued the other side with you. I corrected you when you said that all of the land was in one place. That is not what Genesis says. You can have one body of water with several bodies of land in it, which is what Genesis describes. I am going to remember that the next time you argue the other side with me.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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creation Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
That is why He made a garden. For mankind to start there and later branch out to all the world.
Since He made the stars and sun and moon on a certain day, I suggest that does tell us when space was filled with stars.
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creation Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
No, by the time the water and land was separated in the days of creation, that is when we started having the land. After the separation. That is when we had seas in which God created fish.
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creation Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
It is not unscriptural to suggest that a lot of upheaval, continental separation along with mountains being pushed up, happened after the time of the flood actually.
You ask how God got water to earth? There were conduits in heaven called windows of heaven. Many think that these transported water from beyond where the stars end (the firmament where stars were placed and made) to earth!
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
creation writes:
If you claim it is scriptural, give book, chapter and verse.
It is not unscriptural to suggest that a lot of upheaval, continental separation along with mountains being pushed up, happened after the time of the flood actually. creation writes:
That's a fairy tale. There were conduits in heaven called windows of heaven. Many think that these transported water from beyond where the stars end (the firmament where stars were placed and made) to earth!And our geese will blot out the sun.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
It is not unscriptural to suggest that a lot of upheaval, continental separation along with mountains being pushed up, happened after the time of the flood actually
And it's not scriptural. Actually, there's no evidence for it anywhere. But there's gobs of evidence it didn't happen that way.
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.7 |
Hi creation
creation writes: . No, by the time the water and land was separated in the days of creation, There was land all over the globe. That land was covered with water. The water was gathered to one place which left some dry land not islands as ringo would have us to believe. Face not faces which islands would require.
quote: The people are one. In other words they are too much alike and speak the same language. There is nothing they won't be able to do.
quote: So from where they had gone after leaving the ark they were scattered upon the face of all the earth. Which bring me back to the dry land mass in Genesis 1:9, 10. The land mass of the earth that the man was formed from the dust of the ground had no sea, no seas, or oceans. It only had 1 river that divided into 4 rivers to water the face of the earth, along with the mist.
quote: God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.7 |
Hi creation,
creation writes: You ask how God got water to earth? The water was already here. It covered the earth in Genesis 1:2. Why couldn't it do the same 2,000 years later? God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
It isn't what I would have you believe; it's what the Bible says. There's nothing in Genesis to suggest that all of the land was in one place. The water was gathered to one place which left some dry land not islands as ringo would have us to believe.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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