$50 to anyone who can prove to me Evolution is a lie.

there is a book at your high school that found a bird? Wow, where can I find such a sentient book?Given that you think birds are mammals, did you actually read this one book your library apparently contains or was the book otherwise occupied looking for precambrian mammalian chelicerates?

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Know, the bird was not a reptile either, it was supposedly a mammal.

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Wow!a bird that gave birth to live young and produced milk?That's pretty crazy.Are there any pictures you can link to?

I think this might have been it!------------------
"Illuminant light,
illuminate me."

DavidPryor,A bird that was a mammal? Well, with you wielding such a mighty taxonomic sword as that, I'm bowing out....Or might I suggest you reinvestigate your source to see what it actually says?Mark

See, David. If you had just one little carelessness it might not be made such a big deal of. But once you show a little weakness the wolves come out of the forest. Then any misstep you make and wham you're dinner.I suspect you've gone now. Feeling very put upon I'm sure. But try to remember this is a forum for debating. Most of the people who hang around here just love to see their own posts. We will debate almost any fool topic that comes up. If you don't like being in a knock-down, no holds bared, nothing spared debate then you dropped in to visit the wrong place.Try not taking it personally. All that is being attacked is what you post NOT you personally. If you don't like the attacks on what you post then think a bit more before you post. I mean, really, a bird - mammal - you're just asking to have your throat torn out if you post stuff like that.

ROTFLMAO!!!I'm keeping that one.

Rrhain,You've got me all curious now. Are you going to answer any of those for yourself?

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You've got me all curious now. Are you going to answer any of those for yourself?

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No.They are irrelevant. The validity of my arguments rests upon the justifications provided to support them, not whether or not I am a priest, ex-priest, atheist, or whatever.And I especially don't want people to respond with, "You're just saying that because you're such-and-such."Someone said the church had "hurt" me. And how would he know that? I know I haven't said so here and I'm fairly certain said person knows diddly squat about my personal life. Thus, they're saying that the only reason I'm saying what I'm saying is that I'm some disgruntled ex-Catholic or some such (and since I'm crawling into a cynical mood at the moment) who was probably sexually abused by the priests. I wanted him to consider the possibility that I am one of those priests.Maybe I am...maybe I'm not.Does it matter?------------------
Rrhain
WWJD? JWRTFM!

Of course they're irrelevant. I somewhat expected you to say no. Only asked because you say some very intriguing things that pique my "'satiable curtiosities"....

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If you don't like being in a knock-down, no holds bared, nothing spared debate then you dropped in to visit the wrong place.

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I might also add... if you don't want to get slammed a plastic figure in a whack-a-mole game, don't come on guns-a-blazin', spouting off that everyone else is an ignorant fool, and that birds are mammals.

Greetings youoweme50,You seem unaware that 2 Timothy (like all the Pastorals) was deliberately FORGED by someone other than Paul (perhaps as much as a century after Paul.)Why do you think a letter written by a liar has any value?Iasion

Sharon357,Many have wondered how evolution could be falsified. Do you have an epistemological strategy by which this could happen? Any sort of experiment, or natural history pattern, that would contradict evolution?My favorite, which I have presented elsewhere, is this:If evolution is a lie, it will be mal-adaptive, as defined by reproductive potential, W, to believe in evolution. This is true, because both evolution and creation believe that species are well adapted, as evidenced by a high fitness or reproductive potential. Then, if evolution is a lie, creationists who believe the truth will have a high W, while evolutionists will have a low W. If evolution is true, and creation a delusion or lie, the reverse will be the case. Creationists will have low W, and evolutionist a high value. Manifestly, creationists have much higher W than evolutionists, so evolution is disproved.Did I win something?Stephen

Explain how post-fertilization activities affect allele distribution. You seem to be saying that people are born with a "creationist" gene. How do you explain infertility among creationists? Sorry, not buying this one.

The farmers curse (frost pressing rocks up out of the earth)pressing up the rocks from only the upper 3 or 4 feet (the frost line) of the sediments, proves the theory of evolution has created the illusion that these rocks were laid down over millions of years, the rocks themselves testify that your sediments were laid down quite recently, were talking about some fairly good sized rocks, in some of the different soils depositions farmed today, that you all believe are quite old, the farmers plow is continually snagging their sprinkled tops each year, if the sediments were deposited millions of years ago, the rocks in the upper 3 to 4 feet would of surfaced to the surface, however, each year the farmer has to pick the rocks that surface, this is why you will see rock fences alongside some of the farmers fields, its called the farmers curse, toe never had the time it needed to be a viable theory, micro-evolution is simply explained by Intelligent Design, in fact the farmers curse seems to be supporting Intelligent Design, the biblical flood sediments, etc...P.S. The sediment however would of dated old even before they erupted out of the earth, if the sediments were laid down millions of years ago, then the rocks sprinkled tops would of already been pressed up onto the surface, (frost under the rocks pressing them upward) the fact they are still being pressed up is your proof, and supporting the Creationists Theory that these sediments were laid down in the biblical world flood, etc...[This message has been edited by whatever, 01-21-2004]

Why would lies be maladaptive? If anything, lying to prospective mates is a great way to achieve reproductive access. Just watch the Lifetime channel sometime.