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NoNukes
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Message 213 of 239 (766808)
08-21-2015 11:11 PM
Reply to: Message 211 by Minnemooseus
08-21-2015 10:38 PM


Re: Wyoming aka "The middle of nowhere"
How do you manage to keep your paradise such a secret?
Besides the point, which is of course, "Canada blows. USA! USA!" [1]
[1] I may need to point out that this post is sarcasm at some date in the future.
Edited by NoNukes, : GOJF card added

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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NoNukes
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Message 217 of 239 (766868)
08-22-2015 8:35 PM
Reply to: Message 216 by Percy
08-22-2015 5:35 PM


Re: Police at Risk in Traffic Stops
Police in many situations are not held accountable when I think they should be. We have discussed a number of examples in this thread, and we've been discussed how bad decision making does not result in punishment. Fix that and you make some progress.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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NoNukes
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Message 230 of 239 (777625)
02-04-2016 2:46 PM
Reply to: Message 224 by Percy
02-04-2016 8:34 AM


Re: Michigan Speed Limits Could Reach 80
But this "85th percentile" rule seems problematic to me. If the speed limit is 70 mph then most drivers will travel at 75 to 80 mph, because it's only five to ten miles an hour above the limit and likely doesn't risk a ticket. If they raise the limit to 75 mph because of the "85th percentile" rule then drivers will begin traveling at 80 to 85 mph, again, because it likely doesn't risk a ticket. But the higher driving speeds should result in more and deadlier accidents and could easily violate the "85th percentile" rule, so they'd have to lower the limit again.
The assumption here is that drivers, left to their own devices, would travel at the speed of light if possible and that there is no reason other than getting caught to travel at a lesser speed.
If people are going to simply tack on 10 mph to whatever the posted speed limits are, then perhaps their assumptions about what will draw a ticket will have to be proven wrong.
Where I live almost no one drives the speed limit, and that includes police cruisers and driver's ed cars.
Almost nobody has ever seen posted speed limits of 80 mph. Perhaps the behavior we see now won't be duplicated at speeds that high.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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NoNukes
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Message 236 of 239 (778114)
02-16-2016 4:48 PM
Reply to: Message 234 by Percy
02-15-2016 5:30 PM


Re: Princeton Professor Arrested Over Parking Tickets
Towns are now criminalizing unpaid traffic tickets?
Traffic tickets in general? Yes, many localities issue warrants for people who receive speeding tickets or other moving violations and then fail to show up for their court dates. But generally speaking, you can clear those things up by simply showing up at the clerk's office sometime before the po-po finds you and making your payment. There's nothing new about failure to show up for court being a crime.
I was completely irresponsible and just ignored the bill, that makes issuing an arrest warrant okay?
The court cannot tell whether you forgot or if you are just expressing your contempt for the judicial system. Yeah, I think issuing a warrant is probably justified.
That said, I think an arrest for unpaid parking tickets is pretty special. I've hadn't heard of that before. I just remembered that I have an unpaid ticket at Duke university.
Last year I read a book about the criminalization of poverty in America,
Yes, that's a pretty serious issue. In some cases people who are currently self sufficient can be driven into complete poverty by the court system. You shouldn't be able to go to jail for parking tickets. I don't see any difference between that and debtor's prison.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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NoNukes
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Message 237 of 239 (778115)
02-16-2016 4:55 PM
Reply to: Message 235 by Percy
02-16-2016 9:32 AM


Re: Princeton Professor Arrested Over Parking Tickets
man in Connecticut was given a 10-day jail sentence for uttering the word f**k in a public place
The conviction and sentence may very well be unconstitutional. There are some exceptions such as using profanity as part of fighting words or as part of a speech inciting violence, but those activities are already unprotected speech. Yelling profanity just for the purpose of expression enhancement, surprise, or because you whacked your thumb cannot be criminalized.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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NoNukes
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Message 239 of 239 (778119)
02-16-2016 8:14 PM
Reply to: Message 238 by Percy
02-16-2016 5:26 PM


Re: Princeton Professor Arrested Over Parking Tickets
deleted because of its pointlessness.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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