EvC Forum: Federal Gridlock

New Cat's Eye

Inactive Member

Message 19 of 50 (741235)
11-10-2014 3:21 PM

Reply to: Message 17 by Jon
11-10-2014 2:57 PM

Re: Cruz and McConnell

It was a 'stop saying you want small government because we all know what small government leads to and that no one would want to live in such a shitty country' argument.

I want small government.

This message is a reply to:
	Message 17 by Jon, posted 11-10-2014 2:57 PM		Jon has not replied

Replies to this message:
	Message 29 by ringo, posted 11-12-2014 12:11 PM	New Cat's Eye has replied
	Message 48 by Taq, posted 11-17-2014 6:12 PM	New Cat's Eye has not replied

New Cat's Eye

Inactive Member

Normal Thread Display

Message 35 of 50 (741593)
11-13-2014 11:56 AM

Reply to: Message 32 by ringo
11-13-2014 10:43 AM

Your chart shows a lot of "doing too much" and a lot of "should do more" which is pretty much what I was saying. If the government could do more with less (taxation), more people would be asking for more.

Nah, I don't think that follows. You're wrongly assuming too much cohesiveness.

Its a partisan issue:

Republicans mostly think its too much and Democrats mostly think it should be more.

This message is a reply to:
	Message 32 by ringo, posted 11-13-2014 10:43 AM		ringo has replied

Replies to this message:
	Message 37 by ringo, posted 11-13-2014 12:02 PM		New Cat's Eye has replied

New Cat's Eye

Inactive Member

Normal Thread Display

Message 39 of 50 (741601)
11-13-2014 12:13 PM

Reply to: Message 37 by ringo
11-13-2014 12:02 PM

It isn't, "Most of us (U.S.) think the government is doing too much," as you claimed in Message 30. It's, "Most of us (Republicans) think the government is doing too much."

But the total number of people who think the government is doing too much is a majority, which is what I said.

And more Democrats think its too much than Republicans think it should be more.

And the independents mostly think its too much.

So I'm entirely correct, and what you're saying is not.

This message is a reply to:
	Message 37 by ringo, posted 11-13-2014 12:02 PM		ringo has replied

Replies to this message:
	Message 40 by ringo, posted 11-13-2014 12:21 PM		New Cat's Eye has replied

New Cat's Eye

Inactive Member

Normal Thread Display

Message 44 of 50 (741734)
11-14-2014 10:57 AM

Reply to: Message 43 by ringo
11-14-2014 10:41 AM

It is weasely to claim that most Americans want the government to do less when it isn't always a majority at all and when it is a majority it's only a majority of Republicans.

That doesn't make any sense at all.

More people want the government to do less than people who don't. That's a majority. That's the most.

Why are you trying to weasel out of that?

If you had said that a majority of right-wing nuts want the government to do less, I wouldn't have disputed the "fact" - though I suspect that many of them are just spouting the party line and don't really understand the implications of what they're saying.

Oh, so they don't really want what they say they want? Your mind-reading powers are amazing.

This message is a reply to:
	Message 43 by ringo, posted 11-14-2014 10:41 AM		ringo has replied

Replies to this message:
	Message 45 by ringo, posted 11-14-2014 11:09 AM	New Cat's Eye has seen this message but not replied
	Message 46 by nwr, posted 11-14-2014 11:42 AM	New Cat's Eye has seen this message but not replied

4 online now:	dwise1, kjsimons, Omnivorous, PaulK
Newest Member:	ChatGPT
Post Volume:	Total: 916,906 Year: 4,163/9,624 Month: 1,034/974 Week: 361/286 Day: 4/13 Hour: 1/0