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Imagine having to do th.e same thing with the bible when atheists misquote it. Pfsh. Imagine. Consider it done. You can view my posting history.
But thanks for going to thr trouble. I like quotes too, coz they are quotes. Take your time and slow down. "I like x because x=x" doesn't tell me much. There's no time constraints here. Go for quality over quantity. You don't have to reply to every-one/thing.
What do think he meant by savage races? Well, he specifically mentioned the Fuegians --clicky ...and the qualities he brings forth are:
Sounds like the primitive peoples that Europeans encountered during their expansions. You know: Native Americans, Aboriginal Australians, Sub-Saharan Africans, whatever those Indonesians are, etc. Isn't that what we mean by "savages"?
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What did he mean by savage races, common,the man said he would rather be a baboon or a monkey than a savage That's not true. First, he admits that he is a savage.
quote: Second, the "baboon" and "monkey" that he refers to are metaphors for his ancestors that he is embracing.
quote: He talks about how much those guys were savages, and then refers the monkey/baboon to provide a little contrast, to make the point that the reader isn't as far away from the monkey/baboon as they may have thought. He's not saying that he would rather be a baboon than a savage, he's saying that we actually are the baboons already, and the savages are just another step that has been taken. THen he gets into the whole part about how you fell were you did by luck and not by anything that you actually did, so your pride is actually misplaced even tho its obvious why you have it, and thus it is forgiveable. Edited by Catholic Scientist, : No reason given.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Hitler allegedly was a big fan of Darwin's clearly racist views in that he was able to "scientifically supported" exterminate the "sub human" Jew in the aid of furthering evolution with the full support of Darwin's "science". That is indeed "alleged". Specifically, it's alleged by two kinds of people: liars and their dupes. I shall do you the courtesy of supposing that you are the latter, and ask you why you didn't bother to find out if the allegation was true or not before repeating it. I seem to remember something in the Bible about not bearing false witness.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Most evolutionists seem to have serious issues with the character of God, why not the character of a man who belived half of us to be savages worthy of extinction? Do you have any evidence for your fantasies about what Darwin thought?
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Jaf Member (Idle past 3724 days) Posts: 150 Joined: |
Then you will also know the fossil record and lack of any evolving inter species type fossils would have woken any thinking humanoid by now, but in imagine you are now progressing the illness by teaching it too. Oh dear.
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Jaf Member (Idle past 3724 days) Posts: 150 Joined: |
I have his quotes.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Hitler allegedly was a big fan of Darwin's clearly racist views in that he was able to "scientifically supported" exterminate the "sub human" Jew in the aid of furthering evolution with the full support of Darwin's "science". My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. --- Adolf Hitler, My New Order Perhaps you could find a quote with him saying something about Darwin. No?
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
I have his quotes. But those do not support your fantasies. That's why I asked.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2136 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Then you will also know the fossil record and lack evolving inter species type fossils would have woken any thinking humanoid by now, but in imagine you are now progressing the illness by teaching it too. Oh dear. Yes, I have taught evolution in the past. But then, I have actually studied the evidence at some length--passing the Ph.D. exams in most universities is not just a formality. To what relevant degree have you aspired, and what is your formal study in the field?Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
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Jaf Member (Idle past 3724 days) Posts: 150 Joined: |
Yes it was very devious of him wasn't it? And yet now we have to listen to your lot telling us that the theory in no way ever meant humans evolved from apes right? Then maybe your pope aught to have kept infant analogies to himself.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Then you will also know the fossil record and lack of any evolving inter species type fossils would have woken any thinking humanoid by now The crowning achievement of paleontology has been the demonstration, from the history of life, of the validity of the evolutionary theory [...] The fossil record contains many well-documented examples of the transition from one species into another, as well as the origin of new physical features. --- American Geological Institute. Evolution is both a scientific fact and a scientific theory. Evolution is a fact in the sense that life has changed through time. In nature today, the characteristics of species are changing, and new species are arising. The fossil record is the primary factual evidence for evolution in times past, and evolution is well documented by further evidence from other scientific disciplines, including comparative anatomy, biogeography, genetics, molecular biology, and studies of viral and bacterial diseases. --- The Paleontological Society The fossil record of vertebrates unequivocally supports the hypothesis that vertebrates have evolved through time, from their first records in the early Paleozoic Era about 500 million years ago to the great diversity we see in the world today. The hypothesis has been strengthened by so many independent observations of fossil sequences that it has come to be regarded as a confirmed fact, as certain as the drift of continents through time or the lawful operation of gravity. --- Society of Vertebrate Paleontology This is too easy, are you by any chance related to a fish in a barrel?
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Jaf Member (Idle past 3724 days) Posts: 150 Joined: |
Twenty years study and proof to show beyond cavil that evolution theory is not science. All the known and observed evidence on the planets and the earth refutes evolution.
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Yes it was very devious of him wasn't it? And yet now we have to listen to your lot telling us that the theory in no way ever meant humans evolved from apes right? No, humans are apes. But yes, we also evolved from other apes. I'm not sure what you're asking?
Then maybe your pope aught to have kept infant analogies to himself. I dunno what you're talking 'bout, how about we just keep this between you and me?
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Twenty years study and proof to show beyond cavil that evolution theory is not science. All the known and observed evidence on the planets and the earth refutes evolution. And yet apparently this thread was the best you could come up with --- the thing you decided to lead with on joining this forum. Well, dear Jaf, if this is your strongest suit, I think you overestimate yourself when you claim to have proof "beyond cavil". I think people will cavil. Some of them may go so far as to laugh.
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Jaf Member (Idle past 3724 days) Posts: 150 Joined: |
If it's easy, where are the interspecies fossils? If you want to know about water don't ask a fish, in this case you the fish and you have no idea about anything, be honest now.
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