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Author Topic:   God’s glitch in Eden. A & E had to break God’s second command to accomplish the first
Dr Adequate
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Message 8 of 95 (703845)
07-30-2013 12:58 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Greatest I am
07-29-2013 11:11 AM


Does sex and sexual desire have both a good and evil side?
You will answer yes to this of course.
Did A & E have any knowledge of good and evil before they ate of the tree of knowledge?
No.
Then they could not engage in sex as it has good and evil aspects and they did not have that knowledge.
Knowledge drives desire and without knowledge of sex, they could not desire it. Right?
It seems a rather tendentious argument. You don't have to know all about a thing in order to do it, or to want to do it. People could, for example, have children (and want to) before they knew about meiosis. If you applied your same reasoning, you'd come up with stuff like this: "Did people have any knowledge of good and evil before Oscar Hertwig discovered it in 1876? No. Then they could not engage in reproduction as it has meiotic aspects and they did not have that knowledge." Which is clearly not true.

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Message 30 of 95 (703910)
07-30-2013 7:41 PM
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07-30-2013 10:41 AM


Just answer the questions in sequence.
Well, the answer to the last one is that you don't need to know everything about sex in order to desire it. People can, for example, get horny without knowing the definition of maschalagnia. In fact, that would be most people.
And the same goes for pretty much everyone else. Of the people who desire (for example) to eat a pineapple, only a tiny insignificant fraction know that they don't grow on trees. But they can still desire pineapples, they don't need to know all about them to do so.
And knowledge of good and evil doesn't seem to have any sort of privileged status in this consideration. Perhaps pineapples are grown by slave workers and watered with the tears of orphans; or perhaps, on the contrary, all profits from the sale of pineapples go to charity. I have no idea, but I still always know whether or not I want to eat a pineapple.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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