Life on Other Planets: Is it a problem for creationists?

So, did Jesus die for their sins, too? Or did they have their own alien Jesus? Or maybe they never ate the fruit, etc? So there's no sin on their planet - but then, if sin entered the entire universe because of Adam and Eve, do they then have sin for no fault of their own?It's difficult to countenance a god that would condemn all intellegent life for the actions of two people on one planet. Extraterrestrial life puts some wrinkles in your theology; I'm surprised you haven't thought of them before.

Well, I agree that we're totally speculating either way. Honestly I don't like to get into these debates because this is exactly how they end - we say "well, I'll make up my mind when we actually find the aliens." What else would we do?

So, if we find life on other planets can we conclude that God does not exist? That, I think, is the point of the thread. Though it's not my thread - I think it's a stupid question. Why worry about it until we actually find the life?

Right, but what about the people that aren't decended from them? You know, the intelligent aliens on the other planets we're talking about.Are you saying that they only get sin when they meet us?

Huh, where have I heard that before?Oh, yeah. Every single year for the past 2000 years. "Real soon now," you Christians always say. I'm not really that worried.

How does that work, exactly? Are you saying that, when they meet us, they're going to radically change their behavior? "Hey, I didn't know you could rob and steal, but I heard you could do it from the humans, so let's get to it?" Or that behaviors they were already doing would suddenly become sinful?If this species of organisms has only one sex, does that mean they're all gay fornicators? And would that mean that their only means of reproduction would only become sinful after we met them?This message has been edited by crashfrog, 01-19-2005 12:53 AM

What if these aliens require three sexes to procreate? Or what if they don't have marriage at all? That might be "God's plan" for us, but what if it wasn't for them?What I'm asking is, when you say that they would be sinless until they met us, are you saying that they wouldn't be engaging in behaviors that are sinful until they met us; or that the behaviors they were engaging in would stay the same, but some of those behaviors would become sinful?It's ludicrous to suggest that exposure to humanity would make them do things they hadn't already thought of doing; but it's incoherent to try to draw a distinction between sin and behavior.

What do you predict would be the difference, exactly? What I don't understand is how a being could be doing the exact same thing in the same situation, only it's sinful at one point in time and not another, and the only difference is humans visiting their planet.I mean, I realize that your model has sex sinful in one situation and perfectly fine in another, and I understand the difference is marriage, or whatever. But this would be like sex with my wife being fine, and then sex with my wife becomes sinful, and the only thing that happened was that a friend came over for coffee. I know. And I'm not trying to make fun of you or anything. You just had some interesting thoughts on the subject and I'd like to explore them with you. It's fun, I hope?

So, what you're saying is that after the Fall, behaviors that were not sinful became sinful? Even though the behaviors themselves didn't change?I'm sorry to harp on this point but it's so remarkable that I want to make sure I understand you completely.

So what about them changed that they were not perfect? If you do the same thing twice, in the same way, how can it be perfect one time and imperfect another?

Ok, I see by your example that post-sin, the actual behavior changed in regards to how it was carried out. That makes a lot more sense, thanks.