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Topic: When to be literal?
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Larni
Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: 09-16-2005
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Message 40 of 66 (678027)
11-04-2012 11:04 AM
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Reply to: Message 39 by jar
11-04-2012 10:34 AM
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Re: Books of the Bible...an aside
When the Christian Canons were created lots of context and material that would have been common knowledge in the community and society at the time Jesus lived was lost. As the new religion "Christianity" evolved it built on members from outside that original community and society, Greeks and Romans and others that did not have that basic mythos and understanding. Is that to say the Greeks and Romans were 'filling in the gaps' made by that lost knowledge?
The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286 Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134
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Larni
Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: 09-16-2005
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Message 42 of 66 (678029)
11-04-2012 11:13 AM
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Reply to: Message 41 by jar
11-04-2012 11:08 AM
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Re: Books of the Bible...an aside
So (and this is not a flippant question) how can we know the original meaning of the Bible?
The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286 Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 41 by jar, posted 11-04-2012 11:08 AM | | jar has replied |
| Replies to this message: | | | Message 43 by jar, posted 11-04-2012 12:18 PM | | Larni has replied |
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Larni
Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: 09-16-2005
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Message 44 of 66 (678035)
11-04-2012 12:58 PM
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Reply to: Message 43 by jar
11-04-2012 12:18 PM
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Re: Books of the Bible...an aside
If you would keep going I would be fascinated. I can see a question on the horizon, though and I don't want you to think I'm playing 'gotcha': what does this mean for miracles?
The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286 Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 43 by jar, posted 11-04-2012 12:18 PM | | jar has replied |
| Replies to this message: | | | Message 46 by jar, posted 11-04-2012 2:46 PM | | Larni has replied |
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Larni
Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: 09-16-2005
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Message 47 of 66 (678042)
11-04-2012 3:04 PM
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Reply to: Message 46 by jar
11-04-2012 2:46 PM
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Re: Books of the Bible...an aside
I mean how can we know that the miracles were real and not cultural spin.
The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286 Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 46 by jar, posted 11-04-2012 2:46 PM | | jar has replied |
| Replies to this message: | | | Message 48 by jar, posted 11-04-2012 3:09 PM | | Larni has not replied |
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Larni
Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: 09-16-2005
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Re: Book Curses
I was disagreeing with you when you said this:
None of the verses you've shared support that conclusion. The curses are basically against editing what the writer had written. I put forwards Lev as support. You disagree. That's what happens in life. I never knew about book curses. I should be greatful to you for educating me (I'm not being sarcastic) but it's really hard be so. Edited by Larni, : Less of the snark.
The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286 Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134
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Larni
Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: 09-16-2005
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Message 61 of 66 (678162)
11-05-2012 6:12 PM
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Reply to: Message 58 by jar
11-05-2012 2:04 PM
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Re: Books of the Bible...an aside
And each had their scriptures and each was trying to create Christianity in their image. How can any one beleive any of them, then?
The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286 Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 58 by jar, posted 11-05-2012 2:04 PM | | jar has replied |
| Replies to this message: | | | Message 62 by jar, posted 11-05-2012 6:20 PM | | Larni has replied |
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Larni
Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: 09-16-2005
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Message 63 of 66 (678229)
11-06-2012 5:57 AM
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Reply to: Message 62 by jar
11-05-2012 6:20 PM
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Re: Books of the Bible...an aside
If the various bits of the Bible are rife with socio-politically oriented bias from the authors how can anyone claim the Bible can be trusted about the nature of Yaweh or Jesus or anything it purports to be true. I could be woefully missing your point but it seems that you are saying that we cannot trust the Bible as a document to teach us about Yaweh and that it is infact a culturally bias record of what people believed at the time? Is this the case? Edited by Larni, : Added first ?
The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286 Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 62 by jar, posted 11-05-2012 6:20 PM | | jar has replied |
| Replies to this message: | | | Message 64 by jar, posted 11-06-2012 8:57 AM | | Larni has replied |
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Larni
Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: 09-16-2005
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Message 65 of 66 (678249)
11-06-2012 9:34 AM
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Reply to: Message 64 by jar
11-06-2012 8:57 AM
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Re: Books of the Bible...an aside
So does that mean that people profess who to be Christian without having taken the time to put in the study are making uniformed conclusions about their Saviour? What method are these people using to inform their conclusions about Yaweh? Edited by Larni, : Stupid iPhone
The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286 Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 64 by jar, posted 11-06-2012 8:57 AM | | jar has replied |
| Replies to this message: | | | Message 66 by jar, posted 11-06-2012 9:54 AM | | Larni has not replied |
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