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Artemis Entreri

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Message 69 of 81 (652305)
02-13-2012 11:21 AM

Reply to: Message 64 by Warthog
02-09-2012 7:01 PM

Re: LessonS learned?

ya whatever dood

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Message 70 of 81 (652311)
02-13-2012 11:25 AM

Reply to: Message 61 by Dr Adequate
02-09-2012 3:12 PM

Re: Iran has the second largest community of Jews in the MIddle East...

yes, the same thing happened in Iran.

Persian Jews - Wikipedia

look at where all the Persian (Iranian) Jews are today.

out of 350,000 there are maybe 25,000 left in Iran. That is 7% of their pre-Islamic revolution (1979) population.

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Message 73 of 81 (652435)
02-13-2012 5:48 PM

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02-13-2012 12:10 PM

Re: Iran has the second largest community of Jews in the MIddle East...

And like non-Jewish Iranians they have been leaving NOT due to religious persecution but rather for economic reasons. Remember, the US and the West has been leveling economic sanctions on Iran for many decades.

an interesting claim, but I fail to find anything that supports it.

on the other hand, it was less difficult to find information about the Persian Jews fleeing a homeland they have had for thousands, that really kicked off in 1979.

Abbas Milani writes:

Iran in fact was the first Muslim country to de facto recognize Israel and established close ties that lasted till 1979. But even then, the dread spirit of Haman was also in the air. As the Iranian government and many of its people were involved in helping Jews in their hour of need, there were also some ayatollahs who delivered fiery speeches against Jews, and against Israel. Clerical support for the oppression of Jews, which often hid its ugly head behind slogans against Zionism, began to emerge at the time.

When Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini came to power in 1979, he became the standard-bearer of this tradition. He paid lip service to the idea that Jews would be treated as equals in Iran. Islam, after all, affords Jews many rights as "people of the book." But in fact, Jews were subjected to many cruel and unjust punishments. The first nonmilitary, nongovernmental person sent to the firing squad by the Islamic revolutionary courts was a Jew, Habib Elganian, a prominent Iranian businessman.

Wikipedia writes:

Abbas Malekzadeh Milani (Persian: عباس ملک‌زاده میلانی; born 1949) is an Iranian-American historian and author. Milani is a visiting professor of Political Science and the director of the Iranian Studies program at Stanford University. He is also a research fellow and co-director of the Iran Democracy Project at Stanford University's Hoover Institution.

Opinion | For Jews, there have always been two Irans - The New York Times

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At the time of the 1979 Islamic Revolution, 80,000 still remained in Iran. From then on, Jewish emigration from Iran dramatically increased, as about 20,000 Jews left within several months after the Islamic Revolution.

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Message 74 of 81 (652445)
02-13-2012 6:42 PM

Reply to: Message 72 by dronestar
02-13-2012 12:42 PM

Re: LessonS learned?

you forgot one:

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Z Communications is a radical left-wing media group founded in 1986 by Michael Albert and Lydia Sargent.

so in other words they are very biased. and as I originally thought, just as reputable as WND. got it, thanks.

1. Out of over forty military bases on the map, you allegedly identified only ONE that is a NATO base.

so is this an admission that you have no idea what you are talking about concerning the data you post?

"allegedly" orly?

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Camp Marmal is the largest base of the Bundeswehr outside of Germany. It is located outside of Mazar-e Sharif, Afghanistan, at the foot of the Hindu Kush mountains. The camp was opened in September 2005. The camp gets its name from the bordering Marmal Mountains. Sanoj

The camp hosts the staff of the German Armed Forces in Afghanistan, Regional Command North of the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), as well as the Quick Reaction Force (QRF)

Camp Marmal - Wikipedia

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In late July 2011, NATO troops also handed control of Mazar-i-Sharif to local forces amid rising security fears just days after it was hit by a deadly bombing. Mazar-i-Sharif is the sixth of seven areas to transition to Afghan control, but critics say the timing is political and there is skepticism over Afghan abilities to combat the Taliban insurgency. Violence is at a record high in the insurgency, and transition comes as 150,000 NATO-led troops begin a gradual withdrawal designed to recall all foreign combat troops by the end of 2014.

so they are even in the process of leaving the territory, and letting the Afghanis run it.

yeah that really sounds like a threatening United States military instillation [sarcasm]!

this is one of many bases, and something you cannot defend other than to say "that NATO is really USA". I really don't have time to go through all forty something bases, just to see how many are NATO and how many are US bases with missions that have anything to do with Iran.

2. And even that argument is moot because NATO is an organization that largely serves the US easterly expansion goals.

evidence?

oh yeah nevermind you just make stuff up like that map.

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Message 77 of 81 (652525)
02-14-2012 12:04 PM

Reply to: Message 75 by jar
02-13-2012 6:48 PM

Re: Iran has the second largest community of Jews in the MIddle East...

and your point is?

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Message 78 of 81 (652529)
02-14-2012 12:16 PM

Reply to: Message 76 by anglagard
02-13-2012 9:32 PM

Re: Iran has the second largest community of Jews in the MIddle East...

I smelled a rat from the beginning.

It's okay I smell a lot of anti-Semitics, around here too.

anglagard writes:

is deceptive as there were never 350,000 Jews in Iran in modern times, as per your citation (and, you know, actual books). It is NOT any 7% of a pre-Islamic revolution of 1979 population but rather a total number of Persian Jews remaining in Iran relative to the number of ALL Persian Jews worldwide as of 2007.

not deception just that I am retarded and bad at math. Good find.

Let me try again.

At the time of the 1979 Islamic Revolution, 80,000 still remained in Iran. From then on, Jewish emigration from Iran dramatically increased, as about 20,000 Jews left within several months after the Islamic Revolution.

So since the Ayatollahs took power between 68.75% - 87.5% (starting with 80K and having a present population of 10k — 25k) of the population of Persian Jews have left Iran. I still think it is obvious why the Jew in Iran are leaving, and it has nothing to do with Jar’s idea about the USA not trading with them. They left because of the Ayatollah’s government and the persecution they receive. Sad since they have lived there since Cyrus the Great (6th century bce).

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