Tea Party Questions

I consider myself conservative and am capable of having adult discussions...but I'm not so sure about you. Are we going to be seeing much of this same childish stuff from you that we have in the past?:

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So, the message is clear: This attack is about a war between the Jews/Christians and the Muslims.

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The rest of you can go fuck yourselves. Too bad you died for our war. This is our country not yours. blah blah blah

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So no one who is born again can have an intelligent opinion on good and evil.

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Good to know.

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I assume you are born again, since you position is clearly not intelligent.

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Is it possible for a human being to do anything? Walk? Eat? Shit? Without the aid of a tiny invisible demon or elf?

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Is that what we're suppose to consider as a valid line of reasoning?

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I ate a sandwich a couple hours ago. Later, I plan to get rid of what's left of it out the back end.

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Do I need permission from Liglog the Toilet Troll in order to do that? How would I know if I got the permission or not? After all, Liglog the Toilet Troll is undetectable.

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Let me know ahead of time, mkay?

Well, honestly, I think you're right where you said this:

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It looks like the Tea Party doesn't have the first idea WHY they believe what they believe.

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From the supposed TP's I've talked to, they don't arrive at these position through logic. They just liked them after they heard them and then continue to spread them.

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It looks like the Tea Party has been fed their belief system by people higher up who have a very different agenda than what the Tea Party rank and file seem to think they are fighting for.

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Who are the "higher ups" and what is their agenda?Most of the TP spreadings I have seen have come from other TP'ers... I haven't found the ultimate source yet.

Wait.... do you really think the audience thought the man to not be responsible? You had a good point but you seem to have caved early to avoid dispute.

sort of, but equalizing things like the state you were born in levels the playing field. and if you open the umbrella of personal resonsibility to include the parent-child relationship, then the whole thing makes more sense.considering your children to be an extension of yourself; the way you raise them, or the way your parents raised you, becomes included in personal responsibility. and if those choices are extended beyond the single individual, to include the parent-child relationship, then i can transfer some of that to my own children as i should be able to do. i consider that to be a large part of my "success". as long as you don't become unrealistic sure, why not

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sorry for the lack of caps, moose, but i'm not at home and this shift key is all fucked up... and its a shame that'd i even have to type this

non sequitur

Thanks for the tip, but I do know what it means.What you said I was saying didn't follow from what I actually said.Here's a tip: Spinning people's position into different ones so that you can ridicule them makes you look like an asshole.

And I agree with you and think you were explaining it well... until crash spun you just a little bit and then you immediately fell over But you shouldn't even bother with Nuggin's phraseology, he does everything he can to villify his opponents (so much that it comes off as trolling to me); so don't waste your time**. Of course not.

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**ABEYou can see what I mean in Message 45

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you attacking innocent children

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You want a 5 year old child to get sick and die because his father didn't get a good enough job.

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Don't be a fucking pansy and back track now. Own it or disown it.

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Pretending you didn't just make the argument just makes you look like a fucking retard.

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He can't be serious, can he? Anybody in their right mind can see that I wasn't attacking children... er maybe that's it, maybe he's just crazy. And what with all the foam I'm imagining comming out of his mouth, dontcha just picture him like you would Dennis Markuze?Edited by Catholic Scientist, : see abe

Nope, sure wasn't. You should be suspended for that.

Nope, didn't do that either.Is english your first language?

Yes, doing those things does make people look like assholes. Now, where did I call you an asshole? That's fine, but that doesn't have anything to do with my position, thus the non sequitur. False premise, it *is* a non sequitur. You should be suspended for that too.

Oh, I was talking about those things... what I wasn't talking about was denying a child healthcare because their parent doesn't live up to my standard of "personal responsibility". Nor was I saying that an American Citizen's rights should be determined by the whether or not some other American Citizen was responsible or not.Both of those are things you made up to spin my position into a ridiculous one. Par for the course from you, though.

Well, its been interesting to see you your mind works, but you have not accurately described my position here, and its clear to me that you've misunderstood what I was trying to say.I'll break it down for you a little better later, because I have to get back to work now, but here's all the things I wrote:

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sort of, but equalizing things like the state you were born in levels the playing field. and if you open the umbrella of personal resonsibility to include the parent-child relationship, then the whole thing makes more sense.

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considering your children to be an extension of yourself; the way you raise them, or the way your parents raised you, becomes included in personal responsibility.

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and if those choices are extended beyond the single individual, to include the parent-child relationship, then i can transfer some of that to my own children as i should be able to do. i consider that to be a large part of my "success".

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I was trying to make more sense out of what crash said made none, to which rahvin continued on with because I thought they were zoomed in a little bit too far. The point I was trying to make was the second part, that I should be able to improve my childrens' lives through my own personal responsibility.Futher, well.. shit. I really gotta go back to work... I'd like to explain this further... wait, you know what? Fuck it. I couldn't give any less of a shit about you. I'm not going to waste any more of my time on this.

Sorry, I don't understand the question. What do you mean?

But how much more money do we spend on research and other advances to medicine that the Canadians can just piggy-back off of?Is it really an apples-to-apples comparison?