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Message 11 of 91 (607929)
03-07-2011 11:26 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Taz
03-07-2011 11:23 PM


What makes you think all conservatives are Christian?
There is a significant minority of us who are pro-science and fiscal conservatives, not the soc-cons who get all the press.

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Message 13 of 91 (607931)
03-07-2011 11:35 PM



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Message 14 of 91 (607932)
03-07-2011 11:40 PM
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03-07-2011 11:33 PM


And no, I don't believe for one minute that the so-cons are a minority among conservatives.
The pro-science and fiscal conservatives are the minority, as I stated.
But after many years we are becoming more vocal and getting far less willing to take crap from either the lefties or the soc-cons.
Better get used to it.

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Message 17 of 91 (607935)
03-07-2011 11:47 PM
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03-07-2011 11:41 PM


We're not painting anyone anything. You guys do it to yourselves.
No, with typical leftie logic you group everyone together. You can't seem to deal with folks as individuals--you have to lump them all into (over)broad groups. Then you disparage the whole group.
If you really look around you will find that there are a lot of rational conservatives who support science and don't follow the soc-con dogma.
But you can bet the MSM doesn't know they exist--they don't fit the agenda.
You don't seem to know they exist either.

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Message 18 of 91 (607936)
03-07-2011 11:49 PM
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03-07-2011 11:44 PM


xongsmith writes:
What press? Seems only Charlie Sheen is getting all the press....
Don't look at me. The MSM is mostly made up of lefties, so it's not on my shoulders.

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Message 21 of 91 (607939)
03-07-2011 11:55 PM
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03-07-2011 11:51 PM


There are more issues out there than gay rights.
Trying to save science is far more important to our overall health and safety. Without science this nation is going under.
The soc-cons are willing to substitute myth and superstition for real science, and have their beliefs mandated by the government. That must be defeated. That's the way back to the Dark Ages.
So you fight your battles and I'll fight mine.

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Message 60 of 91 (609774)
03-23-2011 12:12 AM
Reply to: Message 58 by Rrhain
03-23-2011 12:03 AM


Politics as usual
Who do you think it was that said, "Deficits don't matter"? It wasn't a Democrat.
Does the term "dead on arrival" mean anything to you?
How about the agreement Reagan had with the democrats in his first term to raise taxes if they cut spending? And how he allowed taxes to be raised but then the democrats raised spending even more? And then again?
Plenty of blame to go around. How about we just blame almost all politicians instead of playing party politics?

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Message 61 of 91 (609775)
03-23-2011 12:14 AM
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03-23-2011 12:09 AM


Um, did you completely miss the 2000 election?
Did you miss the 2010 election?

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Message 79 of 91 (615100)
05-10-2011 10:25 AM
Reply to: Message 78 by Rrhain
05-10-2011 1:17 AM


Fact checking
...neither Snowe nor Collins are moderates. They are staunchly conservative. Take a look at their voting records.
OK, lets.
Below is a link to the voting records of all 100 senators as determined by the American Conservative Union.
They range from a low near 0 for liberal senators to a high of near 100 for conservative senators. Snowe and Collins average near 50. Hardly staunch conservatives.
Perhaps you are so far to the left that everything looks conservative to you?
Page not found | CPAC

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Message 81 of 91 (615158)
05-10-2011 9:35 PM
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05-10-2011 12:41 PM


Re: Fact checking
Straggler writes:
Pardon my ignorance of your system but what exactly is your link showing?
I cannot make out what was being voted on, in this voting record you have linked to.
You don't need to know what was being voted on.
What is important, and what you are ignoring, is that a conservative organization has established a ranking system that shows that those two senators are not arch conservatives, as you have claimed. They are about the middle of the road on their scale.
You were wrong. Don't dig the hole any deeper.

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Message 83 of 91 (615164)
05-10-2011 10:39 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by Theodoric
05-10-2011 9:43 PM


Re: Fact checking
Theodoric writes:
What is important, and what you are ignoring, is that a conservative organization has established a ranking system that shows that those two senators are not arch conservatives, as you have claimed. They are about the middle of the road on their scale.
Middle of the road according to a very conservative organization? You do not see the ridiculousness of your assertion?
Look their records up on any scale you like.
And perhaps you could include with your response some evidence (as I have), not just your unsupported opinion.

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