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Message 982 of 1725 (604059)
02-09-2011 10:03 PM

Reply to: Message 961 by ICANT
02-09-2011 1:59 AM

Re: Dust to dust!

Hi, ICANT.

ICANT writes:

Bluejay writes:

To suggest this as evidence that the writer knew about Pangaea before it the existence of Pangaea was discovered by science is, at best, highly tenuous.

I doubt if the word Pangea existed when Genesis 1:9 was written.

But the man that wrote it knew that at one time all the water was in one place and dry land protruded out of it.

My position is that all the waters in today's oceans are also "in one place," because they are all interconnected such that ships and animals can move between them: they just have multiple masses of dry land protruding out of them.

Without specifically stating that the dry land is also all in one place (which Genesis does not do), we can't really say for sure that Genesis 1:9 is referring to a single landmass.

So, maybe Genesis 1:9 was written by somebody who knew about the ancient supercontinent of Pangaea, and maybe it wasn't. It's not really clear which is the case.

I think Bluegenes was being quite generous when he agreed to count this as "a little bit of noise" in his theory.

-Bluejay (a.k.a. Mantis, Thylacosmilus)

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Message 1008 of 1725 (604227)
02-10-2011 2:44 PM

Reply to: Message 1000 by RAZD
02-10-2011 2:00 PM

Hi, RAZD.

RAZD writes:

In other words: ... the absence of evidence is not by itself (negative) evidence (of absence), rather it is evidence of the absence of (positive) evidence - in the areas where evidence has been sought, and with the methodology\technology used to look for (positive) evidence" -- curiously, it really is basic logic.

I think my head just imploded.

-Bluejay (a.k.a. Mantis, Thylacosmilus)

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Message 1015 of 1725 (604263)
02-10-2011 5:00 PM

Reply to: Message 1013 by Rahvin
02-10-2011 4:19 PM

Hi, Rahvin.

Rahvin writes:

It's not just me, right? RAZD did just finally agree that an absence of evidence can be evidence of absence? He did just agree with something he's argued against for months?

I don't know: you see, my head has recently imploded, and I'm not sure I can tell what he's saying at all.

I feel like we're on the precipice of an infinite regress of sorts, and, any time now, a post is going to appear that says something like, "absence for a lack of an absence of evidence is evidence that there is no evidence for an absence of a lack of evidence."

I don't know: in the meantime, I'm just going to assume that the lack of evidence for food on my desk is reason enough to believe that I should go home for dinner now.

-Bluejay (a.k.a. Mantis, Thylacosmilus)

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Message 1016 of 1725 (604264)
02-10-2011 5:03 PM

Reply to: Message 1014 by Modulous
02-10-2011 5:00 PM

Hi, Modulous.

Modulous writes:

Maybe you are reading 'crapshoot philosophy monthly'.

Impact factor: 37.3

(It gets a lot of citations from the Journal of Negative and Boring Results)

-Bluejay (a.k.a. Mantis, Thylacosmilus)

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Message 1093 of 1725 (607623)
03-05-2011 10:28 AM

Kaichos Man and Aaron: a Comparison of Creationist

On Animals with bad design., I seem to have stumbled across something kind of amazing.

Kaichos Man subscribes to a front-loading/theistic evolution form of Intelligent Design, while Aaron subscribes to a more "special creation" form.

Arguably, Kaichos Man's position is more rational than Aaron's (i.e. it's closer to the empirically verifiable reality).

However, curiously enough, Aaron's arguments are a lot more rational than Kaichos Man's.

This makes me dizzy just thinking about it.

-Bluejay (a.k.a. Mantis, Thylacosmilus)

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