dinosaur and human co-existence

That's not true, Hyro. As it is with evolutionists, corroborating data is assembled some related to this particular topic and some not, which supports the credibility of the premise, being the Biblical record. The more, the better and the better things jive (as I believe is the case here) the more evidence based the thesis becomes.That you and your evolutionist friends have an obvious bias to your premise does not mean that mine is blind faith based. Not at all. I've cited a whole lot over the years, including fulfilled prophecy, Exodus evidence, ID evidence, etc which builds upon my premise, just as you people calim relative to evolution.You people have your unknowns and iffies as well, do not forget, such as the first and early stages of biogenesis and evolution, not to mention the problems with the singularity event of the BB etc, so don't come down so hard on creationists because we don't have all of the answers to suit your biased intillects.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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Though I've debated other topics relative to the existence of higher intelligence than that of humans, I have avoided doing that here, other than to say that the Satan would have been involved with the curse. I'm trying to keep on topic here.Need I explain it again, Percy? It is the fact that by and large, one group, the dinos became extinct rather suddenly and that the other did not by and large. I've cited in responses to others, corroborating reasons why the Genesis record of the curse is my premise.You do not believe evolution because you believe it. You cite what you interpret of the observed evidence to build your thesis on your belief. I do the same. I don't understand why you keep needling me on this same ole. If you want me out of this thread, just say the word or close the blamed thing and I'll do something else. Edited by Admin, : Fix quote.

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No, Zen. My position has always been throughout this thread and elsewhere that the dinos became extinct at the commencement of the alleged ww flood. which allegedly took place about 4350 years ago or so. 1) Zen, the fall, according to the Genesis curse account, i.e. non-dino types would not have existed until the time of the curse when the existing dinos laid their eggs. All embryos from then on would be non-dino types. All the account establishes is that a serpent/reptile beguiled the woman. It doesn't say or imply snake, serpent being the word depicting all reptiles. Did the molluscs all die off 65 million years ago in the K-T event with the dinos? I don't think so. To my knowledge none of these was as abrupt or extensive an event as the K-T event. The focus of this thread is suppose to be the dinos so to go in depth on other groups would lead off topic.

For a relative uniformist, yes but that would not be the case with the flood. Have you been following closely, CS? This does not apply to other than the actual reptile dino K-T group. If birds were included, they would be among the survival group which survived and thrived.

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That would have to fall back on flood evidence which would be another topic to explain, in that it would involved discussion of reliability of radiometric dates relative to the possibility of a flood. Now we're back to square one which again goes into how the observed evidence of the by and large extinction of dinos and the survival of the others is interpreted. I have no other direct evidence. If my understanding is correct, you have no direct evidence that an asteroid wiped out the dinos or whatever event you attribute their extinction to.

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I think you're getting into another topic, DC. No comment.

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The evidence remains being what is observed; fossils showing that long legged repiles have become extinct and that a large array of close to earth reptiles thrive abundantly.This coupled with physical evidence attributed to the flood (another topic) and recorded history becomes inclusive in the thesis. applying the 4350 or so date . The most significant of this I've repeatedly repeated already, such as the fact that both are reptillian, similarities of visible appearance such as the two examples of the respective types.
So far as the genes, that they would be different is extrapolated from the thesis as cause and effect. Any change in genetically physiology would necessarily be effected by genes.The change in egg embryo genes, in this case, involves the old debate of ID, which is again, another topic. This thread topic has a lot to do with the ID debate. To address all of the ramifications of the evidence cited, would be impossible in this one thread.

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No comment on blind assertions.

Your evidence is observed data interpreted on the basis of relative uniformativity for the last 20,000 years or so. If there was a flood, the same data would not necessarily calculate the same from a non-uniformative premise.

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A tad shaped like this little guy. Brookesia peyrierasi chameleon on leaf Edited by Buzsaw, : add photo

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I was going by Dr Adequates message, designating them as
reptiles. I checked Wiki and it appears that that site supports your assertion, though that assertion assumes a relative uniformitarian. It would seem that imilarities in features and appearance somewhat corrorates the fact that both are classified as reptiles. Again, appearance, classification and the relative sudden disappearance of the dinos, all three become supportive to corroborating the hypothesis. Relative to the dino topic here, a ww flood would have wiped them all out since only the non-dino types would have been on the ark. The flood debate, as I've alluded to in past threads, involves a significantly pre-flood non-uniformative planet and atmosphere. For decades I've been considering all of the ramifications of this concept. Preparing one for such a debate , like ToE, involves a lot more than one message on one topic thread.--Percy

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You're repeating this falacy that my position implies a change in decay rates. Again, that is not my position. That's the kicker; our current understanding, which is solely relative uniformitarian.

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The evidence is all that I have produced on this thread. That's it. Must I repeat it all, including the pictures from the link of the similarities? Some of it is the same evidence you cite for an alleged astroid wiping out one type of the reptiles while leaving the others to survive and thrive, i.e. that we observe the extinction of the dinosaurs. The evidence here at EvC, involves corroborating evidence for the credibility of the Biblical Genesis record, including the Exodus, prophecy and other, for that background foundational stuff becomes supportive to the premise of my thesis, just as you apply your entire education on evolution as supportive to each aspect of the theory.What you're are requiring of me is like me asking you for evidence of an astroid wiping out the dinos 60 or so million years ago, factoring in a ww flood, i.e. providing evidence that fits my creationist science world view.

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I figured readers could figure that out for themselves; i.e. my alluding to a pre-flood atmosphere and planet surface in this and other threads, significantly different than post flood.Factoring out a ww flood the planet and atmosphere for the last 20,000 years, as per ToE would be relatively uniform. Savvy?

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That's debatable.

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