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Huntard

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Message 4 of 33 (559535)
05-10-2010 5:50 AM

Reply to: Message 3 by Peg
05-10-2010 5:34 AM

Peg writes:

soley on the genesis account, the 'kinds' were capable of reproducing together.

So, based purely on that, 'kinds' are those that can reproduce.

But we already went over that, Peg. That can't be the definition of kind, for then there would not be enough room on the Ark. Further, this means that when gettin to ring species, we run into a problem.

If there are ring species A, B, and C, then A would be able to reproduce with B, making them the same kind, B, would be able to reproduce with A and C making them the same kind, Yet A would not be able to reproduce with C making them a different kind.

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Huntard

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Message 8 of 33 (559541)
05-10-2010 6:34 AM

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05-10-2010 6:27 AM

Peg writes:

i dont really feel like getting into this one again...i just wanted to provide the simple answer to what genesis says a kind is.

Well, then Genesis is wrong. It can't be the definition of kind, as has been shown via the ring species, it leads to a paradox.

So, as of yet, no useful definition of kind has been produced for the OP.

Hey, OP, I'll let you in on a secret, as you can see from the answers you've gotten so far, there isn't a way to tell which species belongs to which kind, creationists just make shit up as they go along.