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Author Topic:   Mythology with real places & people
Huntard
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Message 21 of 289 (510898)
06-04-2009 2:01 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Peg
06-04-2009 7:35 AM


Re: Try Again
Peg writes:
It matters not to me that people refuse to accept the evidence for the people and places mentioned in the bible
The problem is you haven't provided any evidence. You basically say this:
"I believe Moses existed. And the reason I believe that is because other people believe it too!"
That's not evidence, Peg.
Archeology has proven the bibles historical accuracy time and time again.
It has proven that places mentioned in the bible existed. This doesn't mean ANY OTHER claim in the bible is true.
If people still want to claim that it is nothing more then myths and legends, then it shows more then just ignorance...it shows a deep bias which no amount of evidence will ever satisfy.
Wanting evidence to believe extraordinary stuff is not a bias, Peg.
If I told you I was picked up by aliens in their UFO this morning, and first went to alpha centauri to take a tour, and they then dropped me off on time for work, would you believe me?
Would you believe me if I gave you several people that DO believe me?

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Huntard
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Message 26 of 289 (510961)
06-05-2009 3:24 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by Peg
06-05-2009 2:03 AM


Re: Try Again
Peg writes:
it is bias if the evidence is thrown in the bin
But Peg, there is no evidence to throw away.
Saying "I Believe it because somebody else believes it" is NOT evidence.
The problem is that even when there is evidence, it is cast aside and rejected.
But there is no evidence presented.

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Huntard
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Message 34 of 289 (511106)
06-06-2009 7:15 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by Peg
06-06-2009 5:46 AM


Re: The key point needs addressing
Ok, seriously, Peg, you really meant to say all this?
Peg writes:
On the other hand, no bible characters claim to have any special powers, or be born from any gods.
You do know the bible don't you? You do realize there is a character in ther called Jesus, no? You DO realize he claims to be born from a god, no? You do realize he says he has special powers, no?
Really Peg.....

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Huntard
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Message 43 of 289 (511214)
06-08-2009 7:02 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by Peg
06-08-2009 1:39 AM


Re: The key point needs addressing
Peg writes:
well we were talking about the old testament
You said "bible characters" not "old testament characters". But fine. That still leaves Samson, as Bluescat has noted.

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Huntard
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Message 53 of 289 (511302)
06-09-2009 3:15 AM
Reply to: Message 52 by Peg
06-09-2009 2:57 AM


Re: Achilles Heel
Peg writes:
what archeological evidence is there for the Iliad and its characters?
One thing I know is that we have the actual city of Troy.

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Huntard
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Message 60 of 289 (511310)
06-09-2009 7:10 AM
Reply to: Message 59 by Peg
06-09-2009 6:55 AM


Re: Achilles Heel
Peg writes:
and i would feel pretty safe in saying that there is a huge amount of evidence for the bible, its people, its places and customs that archeology has found over the years and continues to find...unlike the iliad which may have geographical evidence but not much else.
Are you saying we have NO evidence of the ancient greeks?

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Huntard
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Message 141 of 289 (511832)
06-12-2009 6:44 AM
Reply to: Message 139 by Peg
06-12-2009 6:24 AM


Re: Try Again
Peg writes:
well I thought he just said that Jesus was not a real person
enlighten me
What I think Nuggin meant is that the character of Jesus is fictional. Which it is. He's not saying there never was a man named Jesus at that point in time, on which that character might be based.

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Huntard
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Message 215 of 289 (512082)
06-14-2009 4:32 AM
Reply to: Message 214 by Peg
06-14-2009 2:31 AM


Re: Try Again
Santa Clause, a servant of The Flying Spaghetti Monster, has this to say:
Do you see what I'm getting at?

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Huntard
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Posts: 2870
From: Limburg, The Netherlands
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Message 222 of 289 (512093)
06-14-2009 6:12 AM
Reply to: Message 217 by Peg
06-14-2009 5:05 AM


Re: Try Again
Peg writes:
No i dont.
Brian stated that I am ignorant because NO new testament book names an author.
No he didn't. He said the GOSPELS were anonymous works. They are. You even quoted him saying that.
It seems i'm not so ignorant. Perhaps he believes that because a bible critic has said so...its easy to be fooled by a bible critic with a PHD after his initials. That doesnt make them intelligent.
Irony, I love it.

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Huntard
Member (Idle past 2326 days)
Posts: 2870
From: Limburg, The Netherlands
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Message 244 of 289 (512185)
06-15-2009 7:09 AM
Reply to: Message 242 by Peg
06-15-2009 5:02 AM


Gospels
Peg writes:
do you understand what the cannon is?
Yes. What that has to do with anything being a gospel or not eludes me, however.

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Huntard
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From: Limburg, The Netherlands
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Message 270 of 289 (512231)
06-15-2009 10:32 AM
Reply to: Message 268 by Nuggin
06-15-2009 10:24 AM


Re: Rascal Conspiracy Theory
Nuggin writes:
Even still, Behe does NOT (let me type that again NOT) reject evolution. He accepts common descent, even of humans from chimps
Not that I think you need to be told this, but to be clear, humans did NOT evolve from chimps. We share a common ancestor.

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