Why so friggin' confident?

It's not up to me to try anything other than the God of the Bible, it's up to you.If "Thor/Zeus/Shiva/El/Flying Spaghetti Monster" can do the things for you that the God of the Bible says he will do, then you may have a contest to talk about.I remember a bunch of prophets of Baal once challenged Elijah to a God contest on Mt Carmel. The prophets of Baal lost, and so will Thor, Zeus, Shiva, El, Flying Spaghetti Monster, or any other god who thinks they can challenge the true God of the Bible.Blessings

The truth is, I probably don't. I could probably be satisfied with just believing.But it's God who decided to give the "knowing" evidence to those who honor Him.

You don't have to prove anything, unless you are genuinely interested in proving who is the real God. It was you who asked me to do the substituting of other gods rather than the believing in the God of the Bible.

Satan or satanic spirits may come to you in a dream and ask you to kill your neighbor and his family. But I would not do so because of God of the Bible says this in Ex 20:13, To make the journey of knowing and serving God more rewarding.

And I have given you the evidence that the God of the Bible has revealed in the wonders of creation and gives to those who search for Him, find Him, and honor Jesus as Lord. It's you who thinks this is circular reasoning, not I.Blessings

On this matter, it's not what you think that counts.Bertot and I both honor Jesus as Lord, and it's what the Lord thinks that counts. A wise man once said this: "There are two truths I know. There is a God and I am not."Bertot honors Jesus as Lord. Therefore, he is not his own god. Those that do not honor Jesus as Lord are their own gods.

I won't attempt the explain the law to you since you seem to be such an expert in the things of the law.When you are willing to consider the "grace and truth" of the Lord Jesus Christ, then maybe you can understand what the law was given to the Israelites for.

God sovereignly gave the land of Israel to Abraham and his descendants (Gen 15:7) for this purpose: In the fulness of time would send forth His only begotten Son to redeem man from his sin.But before Abraham's descendants were ready to posses the land, God sent them into Egypt for 400 years "because the iniquity of the Amorites was not yet full" (Gen 15:16).When the Israelites came out Egyptian bondage, the iniquity of all the people living in the land God had given to Abraham and his descendants was "full." So God then used the Israelites as an instrument of His judgment to punish sinful people living in an unredeemable sinful society.God then established laws through Moses to keep His own people pure and in right relationship with Him. The Israelites willingly chose to enter into this covenant relationship with God which included God's laws of punishment if they chose the break these laws (Ex 19:8).When "grace and truth" came through the Lord Jesus Christ, man now has the choice of either living only by man's law or no law at all, or living by God's grace and man's law.It's your choice.

The same is true for you. Who needs proof that matter came from nothing and then evolved into life when you have scientific materialism that cannot prove evolution really works from start to finish?I'll take the proof God gives to His children any day over your unbelief.

Right on! That's why I don't play the silly "what if" games proposed by some at this forum. If they don't like my answers, that's fine with me. Christians at this forum present the truth that we have experienced in our relationship with the God of the Bible that we know, love and serve, and then leave the results to Him; i.e., it's up to God to confirm and prove to unbelievers that what we are saying is true, not us.Blessings

Other than the wonders of creation that can never be proved by scientific naturalism, the Gospel of Christ as recorded in the pages of the Bible, and Acts 2 Pentecost that keeps on happening, what further proof would it take for you to believe that Jesus is Lord?Excuse me for asking, but could it be that it's not we Christians who are not in our "right minds?"What kind of Christian would it take that could "drive" you to the Lord? [The God of the Bible says He is the one that draws sinners to repentance and to our Redeemer and Lord.]Could it be that you don't want there to be a God like that?If you could or would believe in God, how would you want Him to be and act?Have you not become your own god?

I will explain with anyone who honestly wants to understand what the Bible has to say about our Creator/Redeemer God. This we do from the standpoint of having entered into God's salvation, not from the standpoint of standing outside looking in. This is why this is "circular reasoning" to you, and will remain so until you are honestly willing to ask God to help you with your unbelief.Blessings

The God of the Bible has been caring about His creation and the lives of His creatures since the beginning, and has provided a Redeemer to those who will receive Him. All of time and history is His-story. I'm truly sorry that you and others at this forum cannot see the truth that it's His-story that explains why there's an existance in the first place.I'm finished with this topic. Thanks for everyone's sharing and comments. No hard feelings on my end.Blessings

Here's another "drop of a hat Scripture" that speaks to why you and others cannot hear what we have been saying.The Lord Jesus speaks these words in Luke 8:15, Many cannot hear the words of their loving Creator because they have no desire to hear with "honest and good hearts," and they do not want there to be God, especially THE I AM GOD OF THE BIBLE.