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Author Topic:   Why Lie? (Re: Evolution frauds and hoaxes)
BeagleBob
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Message 254 of 346 (471531)
06-17-2008 10:30 AM
Reply to: Message 246 by Minnemooseus
06-17-2008 1:15 AM


Re: Nebraska man
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If some science fiction writer take a valid scientific concept and then goes off on some wild speculation about it that turns out to have no connection to reality, are you going to blame the originators of the valid original concept for this disconnection from reality? I certainly hope not. But that seems to be what your source and you are doing with "Nebraska Man".
Ever since the early 1900s scientists have been planning to create sex robots that will abduct our women! What hath science wrought?!?!
Also, a snippet from Flock of Dodos about the Haeckel's Embryos thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSDmUuOOulg

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BeagleBob
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Joined: 11-21-2007


Message 266 of 346 (471554)
06-17-2008 12:20 PM
Reply to: Message 258 by Dont Be a Flea
06-17-2008 11:09 AM


Re: Flea bitten
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I’m not trying to prove creation.
Creation is not provable. It takes faith to believe, just like life came from inorganic material. Similar to the "big bang", you cant really prove it, it takes faith based on arguable data. It takes faith to believe that nothing generated something that generated everything. It takes faith to believe that life came from rocks and elements. Until we see evolution happen spontaneously before our eyes, (hence your self correcting scientific method) it is just a theory that is arguable and unproven.
By these standards, we'd have to toss out 99% of all other science as based on "faith."
Real science isn't limited to what we can put in a petri dish and look at under a microscope for forty hours a week. Science helps us analyze the cores of planets, the storms raging at the hearts of stars. We use science to look at the distant past and draw inferences of what might be in the distant future. We use science to prosecute murderers without eyewitnesses or direct video evidence, we use science to analyze the minutiae of matter that cannot be seen.
If you want to criticize certain theories because we cannot see it "happening spontaneously before our eyes," you have a whole lot of other theories to hack through before you get to evolution.
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So the tables are turned...
“During his eight days as a part-time high school biology teacher at the nearby Central Oregon high school, Kris Helphinstine, 27, included Biblical references in material he provided to students and gave a PowerPoint presentation that made links between evolution, Nazi Germany and Planned Parenthood. That was enough for the Sisters School Board, which fired the teacher Monday night for deviating from the curriculum on the theory of evolution, the Associated Press reported today.” ~ Newwest.net
So, deviate, question, pose a new theory, if you DARE! Please, don't try to think for yourself, it will only result in pain and suffering for you. We are all just mind-numbed robots at the mercy of the pure heart that is "science".
God forbid we fire anyone over little things like a violation of Church-State separation and teaching kids nonsense.
Edited by BeagleBob, : Added another section.

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BeagleBob
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Message 280 of 346 (471613)
06-17-2008 3:29 PM
Reply to: Message 279 by Alasdair
06-17-2008 3:17 PM


Re: Five forged fossils
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Yes, so eager that they rush ahead to a conclusion with insufficient data...
Sort of like how you present Nebraska man as a fraud without reading into what actually happened, right?
You're aware that "rushing into conclusions", falsifying data, misrepresenting facts, etc WILL be found out in science and you'll lose your reputation and research grants, right? It's not something that science system encourages, but is actively discouraged. Especially since many scientists have made their names by overturning long standing theories/hypotheses.
I don't know why I'm replying, I'm pretty sure you are a troll.
You know, hypothetically, what if these forums followed standard scientific practice and probated/banned those who engage in half-assed research, lies, or distortions in their posts?
It'd be an interesting sight to see, for sure.

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