Casualty of faith healing - Madeline Neumann

You keep using this excuse. Can you show me where in our Constitution it says that religious freedom allows you to kill your child? I mentioned the Reynolds v United States case in a previous post in which the SCOTUS said "Laws are made for the government of actions, and while they cannot interfere with mere religious beliefs and opinions, they may with practices."

Just to clarify...your definition of "reprehensible" rests on whether something is considered illegal or not illegal?

No. Look, your whole "action v inaction" argument just doesn't make sense. You're saying that Madeline's parents did not do anything (an "inaction") and as such, they cannot be held responsible for the child's death. The rest of us (as well as the parents themselves) are saying that they did do something (or at least they claimed to do have done something). They prayed.Basically what I'm trying to tell you is that you cannot, on one hand, claim that they are not responsible because they did nothing. And then on the other hand claim that doing nothing is a legitimate excuse...because by your own argument, with the exception of religion, it doesn't hold under any other circumstances as a valid excuse.If you argue that they prayed, then you cannot argue that they did nothing.If you argue that they did nothing, then you cannot argue that praying is a legitimate excuse.You want to have it both ways, but in doing as such you are arguing out of both sides of your mouth. You are simultaneously arguing for and against your own position.

But your honor...I didn't kill my daughter...the baseball bat I hit her with killed her".Oh wait, hitting her is an "action" but letting her painfully die from a easily treatable ailment is a "non-action". What a crock.And there's the rub Catholic Scientists...diabetes is completely treatable. One does not have to die from the disease.Here's a question for which I do not know the answer. Does anyone in the family wear glasses? Just curious. Wouldn't it be friggin hilarious of one of them did. It would kind of shoot down your whole argument, no? What if I'm an atheist, but just tired of having my diabetic kid around? I can't believe what I'm reading. Honestly, I am stunned. What could possibly need intervention more than stopping someone from killing their child? What should the Government to be able to interfere with, if not stopping this sort of thing? Well, I think we can say for sure. Religion can not be given a free pass at being allowed to kill kids. It's reprehensible that these parents watched their child slowly, over the period of many days, suffer and then die. It's reprehensible that in the year 2008 ANY parent would, on purely religious grounds, allow a sick child to die. There is no excuse. The 1st amendment does not give religion a free pass, like you seem to think it does. There is no religious freedom to kill your kids. So 44 out of 50 States have somehow allowed their legislature to pass something as stupid as a law that lets you kill your kids. Big deal. You do know that people don't "vote" for these laws...correct? I'd be interested in knowing how many citizens of the 44 asinine states even KNOW that such a law is on the books. Most people find out about them only after they hear about something as tragic as this case. It's no excuse. Just because some religious nut-job gets a stupid, reprehensible law like this passed, still does not take away from a persons Constitutional right to life. Ummmm...yes they did. This is 2008. Like I've said in previous threads....unless these people lived completely out of modern society, then they have no excuse. Can you cite an documented cases where prayer worked? Can you give examples where we know for a fact that a fatal aliment was "cured" by prayer?They "they look nature take it's course" only works if they let "nature" (or God) solve their every problem. In doing "nothing" they did "something" that lead directly to her death. They signed her death warrant. They killed her.Edited by FliesOnly, : Forgot to address something

With hope, the case will be won and will set precedent to revoke such stupid laws. It's sad situation, but these religious exemptions need to be removed...they're ridiculous and deadly.